Goshawk weight management

[čica 4]

Heey all,been flying hh for 4yrs and now i plan to go for a goshawk next year....

Read much bout weight management with goshawks,so i want to know how much is different from hh weight management....

Regards

[david901 165]

Weight management is weight management mate.

You feed more then they gain weight, feed less and they lose weight depending on type of food, weather conditions, amount of exercise they are doing etc, etc.

There is more to flying a hawk than just weight management.

Are you going to get a PR or imprint?

Do you have someone you can chat to that has experience of Goshawks as that may help.

 

 

Edited August 5, 2018 by david901
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[čica 4]

Yea,i have a friend that flyies goshawks for 20+  years,still not sure will i take a pr or imprint

[david901 165]

I've flown both PR and imprint Gos.

Both make excellent hawks if you've got the land and game to fly them at.

If flying at gamebirds, you will also need a decent dog.

Good luck.

 

 

[čica 4]

On 07/08/2018 at 17:37, david901 said:

I've flown both PR and imprint Gos.

Both make excellent hawks if you've got the land and game to fly them at.

If flying at gamebirds, you will also need a decent dog.

Good luck.

 

 

Dog will be a gsp,from good lines,and we plan to fly quails and phesnts

[david901 165]

Is your GSP already trained or is it a pup?

If its a pup you will find it quite difficult to train both at the same time.

I would quite like a go at Quail. I have seen a few videos of Gos chasing them down, unfortunately we don't have Quail here.

But we do have pheasant, partridge and duck.

I work mine under a Brittany.

 

[čica 4]

On 10/08/2018 at 21:11, david901 said:

Is your GSP already trained or is it a pup?

If its a pup you will find it quite difficult to train both at the same time.

I would quite like a go at Quail. I have seen a few videos of Gos chasing them down, unfortunately we don't have Quail here.

But we do have pheasant, partridge and duck.

I work mine under a Brittany.

 

Pup is now 3month old,so i hope next year she will be ready to work....quails are all year round resident and if winter is normal northen population stays here during migration...so we can fly the all winter long...and sometimes woodcoocks can be found near smaller waters surfaces

Nice bird,my male harris once took drake,but they ended up in the water i i had to rescu him

[david901 165]

There's a lot to be said for the Harris Hawk mate. 

I know in the USA there are quite a few hawkers who use male Harris for their species of quail.

What subspecies of Goshawk will you go for?

Can you get passage hawks?

[čica 4]

passage falconry is illegal in Croatia,i was thinking about local breeder who flies and breeds german x buteoides,but opet to all offers

[david901 165]

On 06/08/2018 at 05:40, čica said:

Yea,i have a friend that flyies goshawks for 20+  years,still not sure will i take a pr or imprint

What does your friend suggest you get? 

With that amount of experience he should be able to point you in the right direction.

 

What quarry do you take with your HH? Are there many rabbits over there?

[čica 4]

he told me that if i want to fly quails and pheasents to go for a male.....he breeds nice sized males around 750gr.....we dont have rabbits here,i flew moorhens and pheants with my hh.....but never had any luck with quails 

[david901 165]

The only problem with flying a male on pheasant is they can sometimes become selective and refuse to take cock birds. 

Though some are real pheasant killers. Also males excel at crows etc.

 

[čica 4]

My friend had a male who was great at cock bird.... but quails will be main target,female spar would be great but no one breeds them here

[david901 165]

The small male German goshawk I had would have been ideal. He took everything from small birds [accidentally] to cock pheasant. 

I keep toying with the idea of getting a Czech Goshawk. Small but very brave hunters so I've been told.

[čica 4]

male gos in my case,dont care much for subspecies, but nearst breeder breeds buteoid/german,so it will be best solution,my questione now is,imprint or pr?