zx12edge 1,001 Posted August 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 59 minutes ago, bigmac 97kt said: All you need now is a .25 barrel and a thermal scope on top you will then have the ultimate hunting tool O,,,and an fac air cert Nice top class rifle you have there iv not shot any thing like it it blows the hw100 out of the water in fact as far as im concerned the hw100 is no longer in the game . enjoy her ZX12 looking forward to seeing your write ups on her out in the field This is the rifle thats making me get my fac and sgc i want one in fac that bad lol atvbjimmy It's making me smile already thermal will have to wait awile. I got a infer red add on that will have to do.fac that's tempting though Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,796 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, Jonjon79 said: I'm going to go against the grain a bit here....... I can appreciate the Impact in so much as it is built for a job and, on most accounts, is very capable of doing that job. It's looks lightweight and purposeful. Now, I've not tried one but, I can't see me ever wanting one - they look too exposed, like all of the important parts aren't protected enough if it was dropped or knocked in the dark. I'm also not a fan of that bottle hanging out in the wind with just the neck threads for support - I never liked it on rifles like the Verminator or Stealth either. To be honest, I can't see it being better than an Edgun Matador - mine was built like a tank and, was protected by a stock. It did have some weight but, like all bullpups, it was right back into your body so, it was easy to use and aim. There's a couple of different stock options - mine was the soft touch finish over what I assume was a beech stock but, there are some nice wood ones out there. If anyone wants to see the accuracy and power that they're capable of, there's a video on YouTube somewhere of a bloke driving in a row of nails with an FAC version. Iv got to say Jon if i had not shot Pav,s for two nights i would of agreed with you may be its the combination of the thermal and the fx that blew me away to me there made for each other , will be interesting to see how ZX12 gets on with his in sub 12 and a scope that is not thermal as for the fx wild cat iv shot Si,s a few times and i hate them but thats just down to me Iv seen Si get some right results with his iv been in one paddock and he in another all i could her was his wild cat going off shot after shot and loads of rabbits coming over the top of the hedge one after the other as he chucked them over Si loves his and once again his combination of wild cat and Photon nv works well for him but not for me im afraid but the IMPACT is a different animal all together wait until you shoot one JON atvbjimmy 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,796 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, zx12edge said: It's making me smile already thermal will have to wait awile. I got a infer red add on that will have to do.fac that's tempting though Well as soon as iv payed off my holidays im off to sort my fac out iv been looking at scoped rifle cabinets going to put all that in place first and sort my house out with good window locks and that then im putting in for the fac air and sgc then if i get it or them im off on a spending spree lol first off will be the fx impact in .25 as your self the thermal will have to wait lol atvbjimmy Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, bigmac 97kt said: Iv got to say Jon if i had not shot Pav,s for two nights i would of agreed with you may be its the combination of the thermal and the fx that blew me away to me there made for each other , will be interesting to see how ZX12 gets on with his in sub 12 and a scope that is not thermal as for the fx wild cat iv shot Si,s a few times and i hate them but thats just down to me Iv seen Si get some right results with his iv been in one paddock and he in another all i could her was his wild cat going off shot after shot and loads of rabbits coming over the top of the hedge one after the other as he chucked them over Si loves his and once again his combination of wild cat and Photon nv works well for him but not for me im afraid but the IMPACT is a different animal all together wait until you shoot one JON atvbjimmy had hold of one again tonight after I dropped the kids off.. had it been .25 id of left the shop with it! but im hanging out for the new model... I tried pulling the fcuker to bits and its solid as you like! there are a couple of nice fac ones on gun trader in .25 for a bag o sand but there in Devon and Cornwall 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,796 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, si brown said: had hold of one again tonight after I dropped the kids off.. had it been .25 id of left the shop with it! but im hanging out for the new model... I tried pulling the fcuker to bits and its solid as you like! there are a couple of nice fac ones on gun trader in .25 for a bag o sand but there in Devon and Cornwall wild cat or a impact si 1 Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Jonjon79 said: I'm going to go against the grain a bit here....... I can appreciate the Impact in so much as it is built for a job and, on most accounts, is very capable of doing that job. It's looks lightweight and purposeful. Now, I've not tried one but, I can't see me ever wanting one - they look too exposed, like all of the important parts aren't protected enough if it was dropped or knocked in the dark. I'm also not a fan of that bottle hanging out in the wind with just the neck threads for support - I never liked it on rifles like the Verminator or Stealth either. To be honest, I can't see it being better than an Edgun Matador - mine was built like a tank and, was protected by a stock. It did have some weight but, like all bullpups, it was right back into your body so, it was easy to use and aim. There's a couple of different stock options - mine was the soft touch finish over what I assume was a beech stock but, there are some nice wood ones out there. If anyone wants to see the accuracy and power that they're capable of, there's a video on YouTube somewhere of a bloke driving in a row of nails with an FAC version. I've shot and owned both, and both are great guns, but neither are as good as the cricket or the Vulcan, the vulcan is a pure tack driver, it's had the edge (just) over everything I have owned, and believe me that's one shed load of rifles 2 Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Jonjon79 said: I'm going to go against the grain a bit here....... I can appreciate the Impact in so much as it is built for a job and, on most accounts, is very capable of doing that job. It's looks lightweight and purposeful. Now, I've not tried one but, I can't see me ever wanting one - they look too exposed, like all of the important parts aren't protected enough if it was dropped or knocked in the dark. I'm also not a fan of that bottle hanging out in the wind with just the neck threads for support - I never liked it on rifles like the Verminator or Stealth either. To be honest, I can't see it being better than an Edgun Matador - mine was built like a tank and, was protected by a stock. It did have some weight but, like all bullpups, it was right back into your body so, it was easy to use and aim. There's a couple of different stock options - mine was the soft touch finish over what I assume was a beech stock but, there are some nice wood ones out there. If anyone wants to see the accuracy and power that they're capable of, there's a video on YouTube somewhere of a bloke driving in a row of nails with an FAC version. im with you on a few things you've pointed out jon.. but having hold of one tonight with a view to parting with some brass I gave it a proper going over! all the weight is in that block, its machined like you wouldn't believe and it becomes clear why it costs so much, the bottle is solid as a rock and balance is bang on... the star point for me is the picatinny is milled into the block, im sure some of the dovetails on rifles ive owned aren't parallel/true. been toying with re reggin the .22 cat and scrapping the cat mk3 and just getting an impact cos it could be ages before they get to the uk 2 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,796 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, si brown said: im with you on a few things you've pointed out jon.. but having hold of one tonight with a view to parting with some brass I gave it a proper going over! all the weight is in that block, its machined like you wouldn't believe and it becomes clear why it costs so much, the bottle is solid as a rock and balance is bang on... the star point for me is the picatinny is milled into the block, im sure some of the dovetails on rifles ive owned aren't parallel/true. been toying with re reggin the .22 cat and scrapping the cat mk3 and just getting an impact cos it could be ages before they get to the uk Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, bigmac 97kt said: gonna be an impact im pretty sure! been watching this and if it wasn't so bloody far away id of snapped it up, been after one for years dont like the bullpup crickets, that cocking the rifle in your lug hole is sh1te. 1 Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, si brown said: gonna be an impact im pretty sure! been watching this and if it wasn't so bloody far away id of snapped it up, been after one for years dont like the bullpup crickets, that cocking the rifle in your lug hole is sh1te. Ha ha, I've been watching that as well. been toying with the idea of having a custom stock like that one made as well. Agreed about cocking the rifle by your ear, it takes some getting used to for sure. The vulcan is side lever, much better and so smooth. Quote Link to post
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 12 hours ago, si brown said: gonna be an impact im pretty sure! been watching this and if it wasn't so bloody far away id of snapped it up, been after one for years dont like the bullpup crickets, that cocking the rifle in your lug hole is sh1te. 12 hours ago, Rabid said: Ha ha, I've been watching that as well. been toying with the idea of having a custom stock like that one made as well. Agreed about cocking the rifle by your ear, it takes some getting used to for sure. The vulcan is side lever, much better and so smooth. I'm a big fan of Crickets - another nice solid little rifle ...... Those ones with a full length stock look spot on. I've never tried a Vulcan Rob - maybe one day The one pain in the arse about that Matador was the cocking bolt - you have to bring the rifle back down to load the next shot, unless you're a contortionist Quote Link to post
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 13 hours ago, bigmac 97kt said: Iv got to say Jon if i had not shot Pav,s for two nights i would of agreed with you may be its the combination of the thermal and the fx that blew me away to me there made for each other , will be interesting to see how ZX12 gets on with his in sub 12 and a scope that is not thermal as for the fx wild cat iv shot Si,s a few times and i hate them but thats just down to me Iv seen Si get some right results with his iv been in one paddock and he in another all i could her was his wild cat going off shot after shot and loads of rabbits coming over the top of the hedge one after the other as he chucked them over Si loves his and once again his combination of wild cat and Photon nv works well for him but not for me im afraid but the IMPACT is a different animal all together wait until you shoot one JON atvbjimmy I do know someone round here that's got an Impact I haven't seen him for a while because we've both been working so much but, I'll give him a shout and invite him out for a shoot I had a hold of a laminate Wildcat at the RFD a few months back - I did like it. ....... Si did well with his at the rugby club down here - he got one of the tricky little feckers by the bottom pitch 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,796 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jonjon79 said: I do know someone round here that's got an Impact I haven't seen him for a while because we've both been working so much but, I'll give him a shout and invite him out for a shoot I had a hold of a laminate Wildcat at the RFD a few months back - I did like it. ....... Si did well with his at the rugby club down here - he got one of the tricky little feckers by the bottom pitch I know they look like some thing out of star wars but they just feel right in your hands and the balance is perfect . every thing is built well on them so thats a bonus they may look flimsy but there not Jon its all i can think of at the moment is getting one lol atvbjimmy 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,796 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 14 hours ago, villaman said: You cant beat HW100 in any for mate in Sub12 and you cant beat FX guns in fac I think the hw100 has had its day Mitch better rifles coming out now mate in ether sub 12 or fac mine will be going soon atvbjimmy Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, bigmac 97kt said: I know they look like some thing out of star wars but they just feel right in your hands and the balance is perfect . every thing is built well on them so thats a bonus they may look flimsy but there not Jon its all i can think of at the moment is getting one lol atvbjimmy Yes you are right about the impact , I cant see me getting rid of my fac impact The crown has a great feel in the hand and shoulder as well , very much like the impact , just cant wait until my fac crown arrives , When the crown turns up the rest of my sub 12 PCP guns will be sold even my trusted ultra apart from HW100k Quote Link to post
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