LuckOrJudgement 437 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 As has been already said there's been a few of these. How often do you hear about accidents involving kids getting blasted with 12 bores in the UK? Quote Link to post
LuckOrJudgement 437 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 As has been already said there's been a few of these. How often do you hear about accidents involving kids getting blasted with 12 bores in the UK? Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted July 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, LuckOrJudgement said: As has been already said there's been a few of these. How often do you hear about accidents involving kids getting blasted with 12 bores in the UK? If you’re hinting at the fact that we don’t hear about it at all really, due to the weapon being licensed and to that effect, is locked up? I get what your saying if that’s what you mean and it’s perhaps a fair point. Quote Link to post
LuckOrJudgement 437 Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Rez said: If you’re hinting at the fact that we don’t hear about it at all really, due to the weapon being licensed and to that effect, is locked up? I get what your saying if that’s what you mean and it’s perhaps a fair point. That is my point, Rez. A bit more accountability, and some basic safety principles could have prevented this. Not such a bad thing? The details of this particular incident are unknown, and I can only imagine whatever chain of events would lead to this boy dying from a pellet wound. Ultimately the person with the most questions to answer is whoever had responsibility for the weapon within that household. 2 Quote Link to post
philpot 4,991 Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 As I have said before, I have no issue with having a license after all I have them for shotguns and firearms so one more is fine. It is without doubt a terrible thing to happen, he is not the first and he will not be the last and that is a fact, license or no license. One of my old staff lost his 21year old son about 8 years ago with a stray pellet from his friend's air rifle went through his eye and into the brain. I have never seen a man so shattered as he was but when we were able to talk about the incident, he was not at all against guns in any way, it was after all a very sad accident. any such sad death will give ammunition to the anti brigade and no amount of advising them of the vast majority of gun owners are safe and use their guns in a safe manner. As a young lad of 16 and a keen wildfowler, I witnessed a chap shooting out of one of the war time pilboxes on the foreshore when, as he was about to take a shot at a lapwing, his brother walked in front of him at that very second the trigger was pulled. The mess in the pilbox was awful and the young man was dead before they got him off the marsh. That has never left me so I have very strict code of practice when I am out with any of my guns or for that matter anyone who is out with me and that includes anyone who is not doing the right thing at clay shoots as several blokes have found to their shame. Phil 4 Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 Having a license to drive, does not stop a driver, drunk or sober from mowing someone down if they are driving dangerously, gun, car, whatever, misuse is the key, people will always misuse and act stupidly with whatever, how many children get killed or badly injured every year on our roads compared with deaths or injury from airguns? Hundreds of times more I would suggest, however there is no call to ban cars, or indeed introduce a license to OWN a car. 1 Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 There are laws and penalties now for allowing air guns to fall into the hands of children unsupervised . Licensing will make air gunning safer there will be less air guns .There is often the odd death each year from an air gun but a lot more deaths each year from licensed shotguns and the licensed shotgun owner has a clean criminal and mental history , may be its time to stop people with clean records from owning shotguns also , you know it makes sense . . Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,787 Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 9 hours ago, barrywhite said: There are laws and penalties now for allowing air guns to fall into the hands of children unsupervised . Licensing will make air gunning safer there will be less air guns .There is often the odd death each year from an air gun but a lot more deaths each year from licensed shotguns and the licensed shotgun owner has a clean criminal and mental history , may be its time to stop people with clean records from owning shotguns also , you know it makes sense . . The thing is there are billions of air rifles out there and not every one will put in for a agc and a hell of a lot of air rifles will go under ground i cant for the life of me think how there going to police it and for the ones that say an air rifle is not capable of killing a human well think again lads iv all ways said air rifles now are capable of a lot more than we think and how many are out there that are turned up that should not be its things like that that spoil our sport,,, idiots with an air gun ,,with no conception of what they hold in there hands just my opinion mind atvbjimmy 1 Quote Link to post
The one 8,477 Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Your saying it was a tragic accident but was it left loaded in my books thats no accident its carelessness Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 also there is rubbish like this https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6948566/more-cats-killed-in-attacks-by-airgun/ ....look at the xray .... the bloke heard some loud bangs and the cat turned up full of lead . the story still says AIRGUN but its a shotgun . Quote Link to post
Underdog 2,337 Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 If we do have to licence airguns can we loose the poxy 12ft/lb nonsense? 1 1 Quote Link to post
Gav 1,708 Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Got told on my fac renewal couple of years ago I couldn't keep air guns any more and had to get rid! I only had them for the kids to play with anyway so had to chuck em in the sea, separate license here for airgun now see. Used to shoot each other all the time with em as kids was great fun and still a 22 pellet in my face as a reminder Quote Link to post
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