different collie crosses.

[gnipper 6,543]

There's foibles and there's being an unpredictable scatty b*****d. 

[Black neck 16,186]

The lads why dont you just admit that bull or beddy or weaton xs are the way farrods

Stop beating about the bush

[pot hunter 24]

19 hours ago, shaaark said:

I know some will obviously disagree with this, and I aint gonna get into too much, but I've owned a dog with beardie in, and seen plenty of others. And almost without exception, they were all far too much headwork. And I'm talking from 30 odd years ago upto present day.  Not for me, by a loooong way

keep a beddy cross now after all the hard work wi ma last beardiex grey lol but it was tough lamping 4 nights a week up perth 30-40 a nite tough feet thick skin headstrong n nervy! wouldnt touch 1 unless i could go lamping 4 night in 7 lol

 

Edited July 20, 2018 by pot hunter

[pot hunter 24]

4 minutes ago, Black neck said:

The lads why dont you just admit that bull or beddy or weaton xs are the way farrods

Stop beating about the bush

true statement but reality is the bull x era is here and the traditional lurcher is getting harder to find

Edited July 20, 2018 by pot hunter

[Black neck 16,186]

1 minute ago, pot hunter said:

true statement but reality is the bull x era is here and the traditional lurcher is getting harder to find

Wise words

[Chid 6,603]

3 minutes ago, pot hunter said:

true statement but reality is the bull x era is here and the traditional lurcher is getting harder to find

I think to many people looking for the traditional lurcher are blinded by what cross they should or shouldn’t be, rather than the way they work 

[forest of dean redneck 11,722]

Didn’t the traditional one have deerhound in it anyways

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Most herding dog /running dog composites are variable,..both physically and mentally,...they don't suit everyone...

Nothing wrong with that...

 I am a weak and feeble, quiet, inoffensive wee fecker, who would not say boo to a goose...

I kinda, go with the flow and don't get angry with a lurcher,..so my temperament probably suits a dog that is on the same wavelength..

Over the years I have schooled plenty of sheepdog/cattle dog types, Borders, Beardies and farm dogs of that ilk,...I don't have a problem with them.

However, as my Father and Grandfather both taught me,...dogs need to have a strong inclination to work and accept training,...they need exceptional prey drive.

 They definitely do not need silly fecking temperamental issues. 

Animals that are irrationally nervous or spooky, or show undesirable traits, are of no use as roustabout mouching dogs,..and such examples should never be bred from.

Back in the day, we were far more selective,...my old folks bred a lot and probably shot a lot...

 

[shaaark 10,919]

25 minutes ago, Black neck said:

The lads why dont you just admit that bull or beddy or weaton xs are the way farrods

Stop beating about the bush

Well this certainly aint beating about the bush. I will NEVER EVER own another dog, never mind just lurcher, with beardie blood!! 

Love staffs, pits etc, but not bull cross lurchers. I know they have their place for some, but not for me.

Wheaten crosses the same, especially with all that coat.

And 90% of the beddy crosses that I've seen have the worst coats of of any working dog I've seen. Not that I've seen loads, as they were never that common a type around me, and I don't do many shows to see that many

[gnipper 6,543]

45 minutes ago, Black neck said:

The lads why dont you just admit that bull or beddy or weaton xs are the way farrods

Stop beating about the bush

I had one with all 3 in and he was bombproof, the collie on the other hand was a 5 year nightmare. He won't be trying to bite anyone again though.

[shaaark 10,919]

10 minutes ago, gnipper said:

I had one with all 3 in and he was bombproof, the collie on the other hand was a 5 year nightmare. He won't be trying to bite anyone again though.

You know my stand on collie crosses in general gnipper. And I think there's alot to be said for plain old lurcher to lurcher bred litters, never mind all this 1st cross or 3/4 bred whatever type. And certainly, all the lurchers I saw growing up, were lurcher to lurcher. And as far as I'm aware, and researching as far back as I can go, most lurchers would've been practically plain old mongrels with just a dash of sighthound

[Black neck 16,186]

1 hour ago, shaaark said:

Well this certainly aint beating about the bush. I will NEVER EVER own another dog, never mind just lurcher, with beardie blood!! 

Love staffs, pits etc, but not bull cross lurchers. I know they have their place for some, but not for me.

Wheaten crosses the same, especially with all that coat.

And 90% of the beddy crosses that I've seen have the worst coats of of any working dog I've seen. Not that I've seen loads, as they were never that common a type around me, and I don't do many shows to see that many

What you  into then furgal

[shaaark 10,919]

2 minutes ago, Black neck said:

What you  into then furgal

Mostly Deerhound/collie/grey, whippet/collie/grey, or a combination of all of those. Also whippet/greyhounds

[Chid 6,603]

1 hour ago, shaaark said:

You know my stand on collie crosses in general gnipper. And I think there's alot to be said for plain old lurcher to lurcher bred litters, never mind all this 1st cross or 3/4 bred whatever type. And certainly, all the lurchers I saw growing up, were lurcher to lurcher. And as far as I'm aware, and researching as far back as I can go, most lurchers would've been practically plain old mongrels with just a dash of sighthound

Plain old lurcher to lurcher bred for I don’t know how many generations.. there’s everything in this mutt . Suits me and the dandering over the fields I do 

[white van man 3,370]

30 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Mostly Deerhound/collie/grey, whippet/collie/grey, or a combination of all of those. Also whippet/greyhounds

I will hopefully be going along the lines of Deerhound collie grey type for my next dog.