fires on saddleworth and winterhill

[cragman 2,791]

  On 30/06/2018 at 18:17, socks said:

I know nothing of the area ... do you have lakes up near or on that moor ???

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There’s reservoirs either side if the moor, so we’re doing helicopter drops from two of them.

[cragman 2,791]

From earlier this week. The soles on my boots were melting

[Kerny92 1,246]

It's cleansing the moor of what those 2 sick fcuks did back in the 60's. 

[socks 32,253]

  On 30/06/2018 at 18:46, cragman said:

There’s reservoirs either side if the moor, so we’re doing helicopter drops from two of them.

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That's what I was going to ask mate

[Meece 1,958]

  On 30/06/2018 at 19:05, Kerny92 said:

It's cleansing the moor of what those 2 sick fcuks did back in the 60's. 

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How close it it to where the bodies were found ? Has the fire gone right through that area ?

[cragman 2,791]

  On 30/06/2018 at 19:23, Meece said:

How close it it to where the bodies were found ? Has the fire gone right through that area ?

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No, a few miles from there and it’s not Saddleworth Moor but stalybridge moor

[Born Hunter 17,832]

  On 30/06/2018 at 16:36, socks said:

They have but every time there's an emergency soldiers are expected to drop everything and suddenly become fire fighters bin men sand bag fillers etc roles they have no experience in and are not trained for ( except sand bag filling ) the army has been depleted year on year whilst its military duties are increased year on year. Estonia being the latest. Their wages are shit for what they do and the new pension scheme is a fukcing joke ... so instead of expecting these lads to give up leave weekends why not draft in other firemen from different parts of the country. After all they only work four on four off hardly a beast of a workload is it ........

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I have no idea why they’re not reinforcing with actual professionals, firemen and keepers. It makes sense as you say. I just assume that it’s not possible or an acceptable risk.

As for getting the blame. I’m not sure that’s fair. Every time the military is pulled in to aid with an emergency, this fire, floods, Ebola epidemic, foot and mouth, domestic security, disaster relief, search and rescue; they’re largely seen as saviours and viewed with pride by the country imo.

[DIDO.1 22,851]

The two winter hill fires have now joined and its been declared a state of emergency. To be honest there is not much to be damaged there it's just blow grass, no grouse moor. 

A friend's house backs onto the Moor and its at risk, also the pheasant shoot at Belmont but as yet I think the wind is in the opposite direction. Its so big though its changing by the minute. Smithills Moor is at risk, if not burning....but it's been bought by an anti hunt group so feck it. 

I used to keeper the neighbouring Moor and its sickening to see years off work go up it smoke. I'm glad I don't have that worry now, Moor keeper in an area popular with the public. 

[fireman 11,019]

  On 30/06/2018 at 15:34, cragman said:

I’m heavily involved with the fire at Saddleworth, been in the moor most days helping with fire fighting. Back on tomorrow 

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To you and everyone else up there be safe fella and as a old long gone Firemans son make sure your family know your safe as it can be a long old wait for news your ok ....

[cragman 2,791]

  On 30/06/2018 at 20:18, fireman said:

To you and everyone else up there be safe fella and as a old long gone Firemans son make sure your family know your safe as it can be a long old wait for news your ok ....

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Those firemen and others on the moor have grafted some and  more these past few days. Proper decent lads and lasses, they’ve put a shift in alright. I’ve nowt but respect  

[DIDO.1 22,851]

The woods under that smoke are the pheasant shoot. It's a long narrow shoot and if it get in the edge of them it won't be good news. Iv messaged the keeper to see if he needs help but understandably got no reply. This morning it was a mile above that with the the wind in the right direction so I didn't think to offer him my services today

[Chid 6,623]

  On 30/06/2018 at 15:34, cragman said:

I’m heavily involved with the fire at Saddleworth, been in the moor most days helping with fire fighting. Back on tomorrow 

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im from Oldham (before moving to NI). My mum says she can smell the smoke from her house in the town centre .. 

my dad is from Saddleworth way , where the horse n jockey pub used to be , lovely part of the country.

keep safe 

[DIDO.1 22,851]

Iv fought fires on these moors since I was 15. We have had some bad fires that have burst out moorland and plantations but never can I remember anything on this scale. 

[Meece 1,958]

When we were in mainland Greece, we saw the after effects of a fire and what surprised me was, that large standing trees were really badly burnt and left like a charcoal trees but it just looked like a bit of grass had been burnt. The trees weren't in scrub or thick undergrowth so I wondered how the trees were so burnt with a bit of grass around them. Most places out in the Med have air water bomber cover. I seem to remember seeing water bomber aircraft parked up at Thessaloni and Zakinthos in Greece and I remember being near Barcelona and planes of the Bomberos cruising along at about 500 ft above the beach. The difference is that we don't have the constant danger of large forrest fires or massive snowfalls so we get caught out when stuff like this happens. 

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[mushroom 13,310]

  On 02/07/2018 at 20:02, Meece said:

When we were in mainland Greece, we saw the after effects of a fire and what surprised me was, that large standing trees were really badly burnt and left like a charcoal trees but it just looked like a bit of grass had been burnt. The trees weren't in scrub or thick undergrowth so I wondered how the trees were so burnt with a bit of grass around them. Most places out in the Med have air water bomber cover. I seem to remember seeing water bomber aircraft parked up at Thessaloni and Zakinthos in Greece and I remember being near Barcelona and planes of the Bomberos cruising along at about 500 ft above the beach. The difference is that we don't have the constant danger of large forrest fires or massive snowfalls so we get caught out when stuff like this happens. 

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We had a couple of really big fires at the back of Barcelona, 2 years ago. We were watching the choppers doing relay runs from the sea to the hills. Pretty impressive how they had it under control and out, in a matter of hours