grompz 705 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 , watching the effects of the fire on the wildlife and the people in the surrounding areas, complete devastation for all concerned, mainly the gamekeepers with there grouse population struggling for yea irs, and the livestock losses for farmers, dread to think of the rabbits, hares and wild birds that have perished over the last few days, I take my hat off to the fireman, army, gamekeepers and farmers who are doing their damndest to control what has to be one massive devastation on the moors for years, only hope ,is for some rain to come to dampen things down, Australia and the states would probably have had it under control by now, more geared up I suppose, lets hope that the sevices get these fires under control soon. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 22,786 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) Hear they got some scrote for for starting at least one fire. Cheers Arry Edited June 30, 2018 by Arry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,984 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 As harsh as it sounds fire is just part of the cycle of nature. A few weeks after some good rain fall.them moors will be a lush green.and will attract loads of wildlife back onto them. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavross 16,368 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 A lad I know has sheep up there just down from the moor, he said the first fire has been blamed on a discarded cigarette, if this isn’t an advert for the full game management of moorland I don’t know what is, there needs to be controlled burning to create fire barriers, so if some little dickhead decides to have a fire it’s easier to control and hopefully will not go on to devastate a massive part of the moor 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Not long back from Scotland and we flew over the area on the way back .Huge smoke trail blowing over houses ,towns .Need to sort this quicker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavross 16,368 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 I feel sorry for the fire crews and the locals that are out 24/7 doing there best to stop the spread, they asked for help from the army and around 100 were sent out, there is a massive army base at catterick and layburn stuffed with young lads they should be at the disposal of the fire crews 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Why should soldiers be at the disposal of anyone unless it's a war time situation ....... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Stavross said: A lad I know has sheep up there just down from the moor, he said the first fire has been blamed on a discarded cigarette, if this isn’t an advert for the full game management of moorland I don’t know what is, there needs to be controlled burning to create fire barriers, so if some little dickhead decides to have a fire it’s easier to control and hopefully will not go on to devastate a massive part of the moor Agreed. And it's f***ing shameful that the keepers helping out haven't had a mention in the press. I think I'm right in saying these moors aren't keepered but in the hands of the RSPB? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, socks said: Why should soldiers be at the disposal of anyone unless it's a war time situation ....... Haven't the armed forces been at the government's disposal in emergencies since forever? Soldiers might not like it but it's not something new. And frankly these days the more valuable they are in auxiliary roles the better before some c**t with a biro wipes out more of them so as to afford a new f***ing MRI for the NHS or some other shite. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavross 16,368 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 I don’t know what it’s like over that way but in the dales over here the army use the moor and when my nephew was based at layburn and fires happened if they were needed they were sent out 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kerny92 1,246 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 They believe it was caused by folk riding motorcycles on the moor. God knows how they've come to that conclusion but there it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavross 16,368 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, Kerny92 said: They believe it was caused by folk riding motorcycles on the moor. God knows how they've come to that conclusion but there it is. That just sounds like some bullsh*t the RSPB would come out with 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, Stavross said: That just sounds like some bullsh*t the RSPB would come out with Nah not the rspb, cos they'd have said it was keepers riding motorbikes to persecute raptors. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,377 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) They said some one on a bike discarded a fag that's what started it then they arrested someone from Bolton the fire crews have done a tactical retreat of winter hill this afternoon in case the fire join they thought another at rivington had started last night but it was campers in the area had lit a fire it is bad up there they've been shutting roads and paths all over and now the wind as changed direction it's going to be a long slog and no rain forecasted Edited June 30, 2018 by blackmaggie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cragman 2,791 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 I’m heavily involved with the fire at Saddleworth, been in the moor most days helping with fire fighting. Back on tomorrow 7 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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