First cross

[low plains drifter 10,756]

  On 05/06/2018 at 18:22, Black neck said:

I sincerly hope so

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While hanging out the window with a bowsaw

[Black neck 16,223]

  On 05/06/2018 at 18:26, low plains drifter said:

While hanging out the window with a bowsaw

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You know it brother

[PJCaswell 114]

  On 05/06/2018 at 16:45, Busher100 said:

Mate you even said yourself your dog wouldn't be up for a few fox's. To me your dog is not much use but I bet if you tried a racey bull X they would surprise you not all bull xs are big slow heavy things get one with a drop of bull and they will do most jobs bar being a fen dog.

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Yes,  she turns her nose up at the first sniff of a fox, and that is the way I like it.

I am a big fan of bull x btw. In fact I think it is a crying shame so many end up being cast out because of a lack of training or care. I just wish people would give them a bit more time or not run them hard young. They are great dogs. 

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

  On 05/06/2018 at 21:55, PJCaswell said:

Yes,  she turns her nose up at the first sniff of a fox, and that is the way I like it.

I am a big fan of bull x btw. In fact I think it is a crying shame so many end up being cast out because of a lack of training or care. I just wish people would give them a bit more time or not run them hard young. They are great dogs. 

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I've never bothered much with foxes or those other things...

Facts are, nowadays we have purpose bred canines that genuinely relish that old game,..but back in the day, you often had to hunt a vulpine out of cover for a Keeper or Farmer with what you had, and if you wanted to stay on the land,... ye had better not miss the fecker...

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

  On 05/06/2018 at 23:46, Phil Lloyd said:

I've never bothered much with foxes or those other things...

Facts are, nowadays we have purpose bred canines that genuinely relish that old game,..but back in the day, you often had to hunt a vulpine out of cover for a Keeper or Farmer with what you had, and if you wanted to stay on the land,... ye had better not miss the fecker...

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Or be prepared to switch to night shifts

[Saltmoon 2,208]

Don't know much about these dogs but if I was to be getting one don't think I'd get a first x myself I like the look of these x's but I don't have the big fields really so would have one bred down in size a bit possible with some collie in there aswell 

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

  On 06/06/2018 at 06:53, Saltmoon said:

Don't know much about these dogs but if I was to be getting one don't think I'd get a first x myself I like the look of these x's but I don't have the big fields really so would have one bred down in size a bit possible with some collie in there aswell 

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I think most people who get first crosses just like this cross and are ready to accept whatever they CAN do workwise. Once you do have one you can always see it as a starting point and out cross to whatever suits you - smaller/gutsier/more intelligent etc.

[PJCaswell 114]

  On 05/06/2018 at 23:46, Phil Lloyd said:

I've never bothered much with foxes or those other things...

Facts are, nowadays we have purpose bred canines that genuinely relish that old game,..but back in the day, you often had to hunt a vulpine out of cover for a Keeper or Farmer with what you had, and if you wanted to stay on the land,... ye had better not miss the fecker...

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I don't know who looks more miserable - you, your dog or the fox 

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

You're not wrong there...mind you, me and Lucy soon cheered up when the Farmer gave us the lamping rights...

Whereas, that poor old fox never really got over the experience. 

 

[pukerk 161]

  On 06/06/2018 at 10:24, Phil Lloyd said:

You're not wrong there...mind you, me and Lucy soon cheered up when the Farmer gave us the lamping rights...

Whereas, that poor old fox never really got over the experience. 

 

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Lovely animal that... 

[Black neck 16,223]

  On 06/06/2018 at 07:25, Maximus Ferret said:

I think most people who get first crosses just like this cross and are ready to accept whatever they CAN do workwise. Once you do have one you can always see it as a starting point and out cross to whatever suits you - smaller/gutsier/more intelligent etc.

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Yeah but thats the same as starting off wi a bow saw then breeding it to end up wi a chainsaw when you could of just got a chainsaw in the first place 

[Boristheblade 1,367]

  On 06/06/2018 at 18:30, Black neck said:

Yeah but thats the same as starting off wi a bow saw then breeding it to end up wi a chainsaw when you could of just got a chainsaw in the first place 

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Hit the nail on the head

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

  On 06/06/2018 at 18:30, Black neck said:

Yeah but thats the same as starting off wi a bow saw then breeding it to end up wi a chainsaw when you could of just got a chainsaw in the first place 

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How about ending up with an improved bowsaw because you don't want a chainsaw? If you end up with a chainsaw the breeding program was a failure.

(A chainsaw's way too heavy when you're hanging out the window)

Edited June 6, 2018 by Maximus Ferret

[Black neck 16,223]

  On 06/06/2018 at 21:34, Maximus Ferret said:

How about ending up with an improved bowsaw because you don't want a chainsaw? If you end up with a chainsaw the breeding program was a failure.

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Who would want a bowsaw 

[Busher100 748]

If you end up with a chainsaw the breeding program was a success because you've got better than what you started with