low plains drifter 10,756 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 05/06/2018 at 18:22, Black neck said: I sincerly hope so Expand While hanging out the window with a bowsaw Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,223 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 05/06/2018 at 18:26, low plains drifter said: While hanging out the window with a bowsaw Expand You know it brother 1 Quote Link to post
PJCaswell 114 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 05/06/2018 at 16:45, Busher100 said: Mate you even said yourself your dog wouldn't be up for a few fox's. To me your dog is not much use but I bet if you tried a racey bull X they would surprise you not all bull xs are big slow heavy things get one with a drop of bull and they will do most jobs bar being a fen dog. Expand Yes, she turns her nose up at the first sniff of a fox, and that is the way I like it. I am a big fan of bull x btw. In fact I think it is a crying shame so many end up being cast out because of a lack of training or care. I just wish people would give them a bit more time or not run them hard young. They are great dogs. 6 Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 05/06/2018 at 21:55, PJCaswell said: Yes, she turns her nose up at the first sniff of a fox, and that is the way I like it. I am a big fan of bull x btw. In fact I think it is a crying shame so many end up being cast out because of a lack of training or care. I just wish people would give them a bit more time or not run them hard young. They are great dogs. Expand I've never bothered much with foxes or those other things... Facts are, nowadays we have purpose bred canines that genuinely relish that old game,..but back in the day, you often had to hunt a vulpine out of cover for a Keeper or Farmer with what you had, and if you wanted to stay on the land,... ye had better not miss the fecker... 4 Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 05/06/2018 at 23:46, Phil Lloyd said: I've never bothered much with foxes or those other things... Facts are, nowadays we have purpose bred canines that genuinely relish that old game,..but back in the day, you often had to hunt a vulpine out of cover for a Keeper or Farmer with what you had, and if you wanted to stay on the land,... ye had better not miss the fecker... Expand Or be prepared to switch to night shifts 1 Quote Link to post
Saltmoon 2,208 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Don't know much about these dogs but if I was to be getting one don't think I'd get a first x myself I like the look of these x's but I don't have the big fields really so would have one bred down in size a bit possible with some collie in there aswell Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 06/06/2018 at 06:53, Saltmoon said: Don't know much about these dogs but if I was to be getting one don't think I'd get a first x myself I like the look of these x's but I don't have the big fields really so would have one bred down in size a bit possible with some collie in there aswell Expand I think most people who get first crosses just like this cross and are ready to accept whatever they CAN do workwise. Once you do have one you can always see it as a starting point and out cross to whatever suits you - smaller/gutsier/more intelligent etc. 4 Quote Link to post
PJCaswell 114 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 05/06/2018 at 23:46, Phil Lloyd said: I've never bothered much with foxes or those other things... Facts are, nowadays we have purpose bred canines that genuinely relish that old game,..but back in the day, you often had to hunt a vulpine out of cover for a Keeper or Farmer with what you had, and if you wanted to stay on the land,... ye had better not miss the fecker... Expand I don't know who looks more miserable - you, your dog or the fox 4 Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 You're not wrong there...mind you, me and Lucy soon cheered up when the Farmer gave us the lamping rights... Whereas, that poor old fox never really got over the experience. 2 Quote Link to post
pukerk 161 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 06/06/2018 at 10:24, Phil Lloyd said: You're not wrong there...mind you, me and Lucy soon cheered up when the Farmer gave us the lamping rights... Whereas, that poor old fox never really got over the experience. Expand Lovely animal that... 2 Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,223 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 06/06/2018 at 07:25, Maximus Ferret said: I think most people who get first crosses just like this cross and are ready to accept whatever they CAN do workwise. Once you do have one you can always see it as a starting point and out cross to whatever suits you - smaller/gutsier/more intelligent etc. Expand Yeah but thats the same as starting off wi a bow saw then breeding it to end up wi a chainsaw when you could of just got a chainsaw in the first place 5 Quote Link to post
Boristheblade 1,367 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 06/06/2018 at 18:30, Black neck said: Yeah but thats the same as starting off wi a bow saw then breeding it to end up wi a chainsaw when you could of just got a chainsaw in the first place Expand Hit the nail on the head 1 Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) On 06/06/2018 at 18:30, Black neck said: Yeah but thats the same as starting off wi a bow saw then breeding it to end up wi a chainsaw when you could of just got a chainsaw in the first place Expand How about ending up with an improved bowsaw because you don't want a chainsaw? If you end up with a chainsaw the breeding program was a failure. (A chainsaw's way too heavy when you're hanging out the window) Edited June 6, 2018 by Maximus Ferret Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,223 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 06/06/2018 at 21:34, Maximus Ferret said: How about ending up with an improved bowsaw because you don't want a chainsaw? If you end up with a chainsaw the breeding program was a failure. Expand Who would want a bowsaw Quote Link to post
Busher100 748 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 If you end up with a chainsaw the breeding program was a success because you've got better than what you started with Quote Link to post
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