Popular Post Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted June 5, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Its a mystery, why the miscellany of rough and broken coated lurchers, (many of Deerhound origins),...have disappeared off the scene. Perhaps we now have far more versatile hunting dogs, mostly created for a purpose, ie; the Saluki and Bull blooded lurchers. Maybe our beautiful Deerhound hybrids belong to another era, sadly long gone, when lads used to go out and simply enjoy seeing their running dogs in action, unburdened with the stress of fretting and worrying, as to whether their jukels did this, or did that,.... back then it was great craic,...the lurcher world was innocent and did not seem, quite so intense and complicated. I loved the 1970s and 80s,...yes, I gathered up a few convictions,.but that was part and parcel of freelancing,...and I will never forget, watching my fabulous Deerhound lurchers, just moving about, covering the ground with their easy-going gait, and thinking, my goodness, how proud I am to own, such great looking canines... They were also pretty functional,...and we captured a few bits and pieces as well....which was nice... 26 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,729 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, Phil Lloyd said: Its a mystery, why the miscellany of rough and broken coated lurchers, (many of Deerhound origins),...have disappeared off the scene. Perhaps we now have far more versatile hunting dogs, mostly created for a purpose, ie; the Saluki and Bull blooded lurchers. Maybe our beautiful Deerhound hybrids belong to another era, sadly long gone, when lads used to go out and simply enjoy seeing their running dogs in action, unburdened with the stress of fretting and worrying, as to whether their jukels did this, or did that,.... back then it was great craic,...the lurcher world was innocent and did not seem, quite so intense and complicated. I loved the 1970s and 80s,...yes, I gathered up a few convictions,.but that was part and parcel of freelancing,...and I will never forget, watching my fabulous Deerhound lurchers, just moving about, covering the ground with their easy-going gait, and thinking, my goodness, how proud I am to own, such great looking canines... They were also pretty functional,...and we captured a few bits and pieces as well....which was nice... This post pretty much sums it up for me too phil. Was never interested if my dogs were the 'ultimate' type for anything 4 Quote Link to post
fred90 3,210 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 perfection simply doesn't exist in lurchers or life 3 Quote Link to post
Busher100 739 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Maybe it doesnt exist but I think It is good to have high standards or every thing will end up very average 3 Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Fair play to you fellah... I've pals locally,...who are constantly striving to improve their stock,..and they will travel all over Europe and invest large sums of money in order to make such improvements. Then,..when the time comes,..they go out and test their animals,... The end results from such a serious breeding programme are really quite phenomenal,...and I revel in the privilege of handling such incredible creations. They really are, quite something... However, as much as I would love to own one,..we all agree that such purpose-bred dogs would be wasted on an aged rabbit catcher,... Quote Link to post
PJCaswell 114 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Busher100 said: " should not have slipped his inexperienced dogs on a fox" every single handed dog out there was once inexperienced so if a dog jack's on its first it gets a slide cause it's inexperienced? I think not mate. Not once have I told anyone what dog to keep if it does what you want and your happy all is good and well but say it how it is do not try dress it up as something it is not IMO foxes are best left to specialist pest controllers rather than those inexperienced or stupid enough two slip TWO novice collie greys at the same animal. Part of the reason dogs homes are full of lurchers is that people expect results from their animals without putting in the time, effort and training. 1 Quote Link to post
Busher100 739 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Doubling up on a dogs first fox is what most lads do. Somebody else has already said it but you must of not been listening so I'll repeat it. All the time, effort and training In the world will not make a dog like teeth they either have it in them or they aint. Heart is one of the things you can't train into a dog. If what your saying was the case I could pick any lurcher and turn it into a top notch fox dog which everyone will tell you is bullshit and untrue. 2 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Think first things first when it comes to owning a decent dog or two or even a line is first knowing what you want from a dog. Alot of people breed to weaknesses not strengths. as for the deerhounds ive seen a few deerhound looking types lamping never made much an impression but hear some of these coursing dogs with a touch a deerhound are alright. Edited June 5, 2018 by C.green 2 Quote Link to post
PJCaswell 114 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Busher100 said: Doubling up on a dogs first fox is what most lads do. Somebody else has already said it but you must of not been listening so I'll repeat it. All the time, effort and training In the world will not make a dog like teeth they either have it in them or they aint. Heart is one of the things you can't train into a dog. If what your saying was the case I could pick any lurcher and turn it into a top notch fox dog which everyone will tell you is bullshit and untrue. I assume you mean by doubling up running and in experienced dog with a similar but experienced dog, in a planned way. Rather than your mate who slipped two complete novice collie crosses that have just been hunting bunnies. The fox must have been wetting itself of the incompetence of all concerned. ...but Mate I agree with you - Deerhound crosses are never going to do what you want them to do but I think that is fine because they do everything I want them to do. Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,899 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Phil Lloyd said: Its a mystery, why the miscellany of rough and broken coated lurchers, (many of Deerhound origins),...have disappeared off the scene. Perhaps we now have far more versatile hunting dogs, mostly created for a purpose, ie; the Saluki and Bull blooded lurchers. Maybe our beautiful Deerhound hybrids belong to another era, sadly long gone, when lads used to go out and simply enjoy seeing their running dogs in action, unburdened with the stress of fretting and worrying, as to whether their jukels did this, or did that,.... back then it was great craic,...the lurcher world was innocent and did not seem, quite so intense and complicated. I loved the 1970s and 80s,...yes, I gathered up a few convictions,.but that was part and parcel of freelancing,...and I will never forget, watching my fabulous Deerhound lurchers, just moving about, covering the ground with their easy-going gait, and thinking, my goodness, how proud I am to own, such great looking canines... They were also pretty functional,...and we captured a few bits and pieces as well....which was nice... What a level headed and honest post Unfortunately that pic is already on the wall got any more 3 Quote Link to post
Busher100 739 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, PJCaswell said: I assume you mean by doubling up running and in experienced dog with a similar but experienced dog, in a planned way. Rather than your mate who slipped two complete novice collie crosses that have just been hunting bunnies. The fox must have been wetting itself of the incompetence of all concerned. ...but Mate I agree with you - Deerhound crosses are never going to do what you want them to do but I think that is fine because they do everything I want them to do. Usually yes a experienced dog with one that's not seen nothing but even 2 novice dogs should kill a fox between them. And for the other half of your post at least we agree on something and aslong as they do what YOU want them for then everything is good and well. Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 As another old codger i also have found memories of deerhound blooded dogs of the 70's and 80's and maybe if i had access to that blood again i would be a happy chap. Alas i feel most has long gone and the deerhound of today is far removed from the field. if I were to go that way today it would be something like a Dave Platts hybrids crossed to a coursing type or rough coated galgo to increase stamina a general resilience.. 2 Quote Link to post
fred90 3,210 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 when was last time anyone saw a deerhound? Quote Link to post
Busher100 739 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Last week down the beech with a old bird n a pink collar and lead 1 Quote Link to post
fred90 3,210 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Busher100 said: Last week down the beech with a old bird n a pink collar and lead lol typical Quote Link to post
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