lurchers (breeding)

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

3 hours ago, two crows said:

saw this old hancock add for Alsatian greys   while sorting old mags to sell

I remember him breeding that litter. Plummer apparently was against it as he thought it might make people doubt the pure heritage of the collie crosses.

Does anyone know if any of those (alsation crosses) did any good as workers??

Edited June 1, 2018 by Maximus Ferret

[billhardy 2,342]

Back. Then the alsation xs Hancock bred were fine mentally and physically he was advised to cut the breedin dead by none other than d b p it was fecking rediciouless the alsation he used wax on a chain on his yard guard dog  bat tans fetched one I believe. But he was not the only one  my shep line came from that yard bought wrong with him catch anything yas showed him there will be lots a ypungsters that don't know of the bull shit that came from a certain fella. What could we have seen with the input that went in to the collie lines if he had had a mind of his own Hancock that his and he had gone down the alsation route.

 

 Some right fecking pricks been around that yard and seems like there still his and da what it's worth lots    Collies             on the moors etc some have alsation blood added fact.atbbill

[darbo 4,776]

ive seen that guard dog Hancock used.It got loose when i was there i stayed in the kitchen till it was caught up lol.

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

 thing is Bill, Hancocks are in it to make money and allways were. I very much doubt that they would still be in business if they had gone down the G/S grey route. I don't doubt though that he might have bred some good or better all round working/mouching dogs.

[darbo 4,776]

One of the first crosses Hancock bred.

 

Edited June 1, 2018 by darbo

[billhardy 2,342]

On 1 June 2018 at 22:48, Maximus Ferret said:

 thing is Bill, Hancocks are in it to make money and allways were. I very much doubt that they would still be in business if they had gone down the G/S grey route. I don't doubt though that he might have bred some good or better all round working/mouching dogs.

A knows how you sees it and in all fairness yas could be right we will never know, I suppose it his what it his and of the met few that have become talked of there ain't a bad in amongst them.has we now no the minority seem at times get left in the past.atbbill

[billhardy 2,342]

To be fair that animal very similar to my jukel but mine was a black saddled brindle and lots stronger. I don't suppose they fa everyone but they have a unique skill that seems  to be a strong trait in them.atb bill

[billhardy 2,342]

That male I had was bred down from one those he bred ,he could catch anything he was all alsation grey  that animal on that pic his very alsation type ,in fact I seen a few of the xs and that animal on the pic carrying more alsation than any I seen coincidence who knows pics work in all manner of ways there was far more ty of the xs going penkridge market  no pics a them and for a avid photographer I found that odd. Atb bill

[peterhunter86 8,627]

1 hour ago, darbo said:

One of the first crosses Hancock bred.

 

That's one nice looking dog,hopefully it done the job, if I was looking for a gsd I'd want it to look like that. If looks could do the job.

Edited June 1, 2018 by peterhunter86

[billhardy 2,342]

We noir looks a nice animal but likes most things with livestock when's ya don't knows ya don't knows.that animal has the phenotype of a range alsation  a lot like a reverse. But even so right handler right job for it results could be achieved .one really does need to have the knowledge how alsation types gallop, before one has a notion on a pic.atbbill

[billhardy 2,342]

On 2 June 2018 at 00:06, peterhunter86 said:

That's one nice looking dog,hopefully it done the job, if I was looking for a gsd I'd want it to look like that. If looks could do the job.

He's like a good pure.atb bill

[Daniel cain 45,526]

14 hours ago, darbo said:

One of the first crosses Hancock bred.

 

Looks the spit of a bitch my old mate had a good 15 yr ago....  Could shift and clever with it, White working shepard bitch but to a saluki grey dog called spring...... We put a merlin /eve bred dog called scout over her.....belonged to a wanker on here... Pups were 1/4 gsd all white or red with feathered ears few had wooly coats all made 25/26'' plus.....a few were sold, the ones we kept back were later stolen at around 9/10 months old and passed  on probably without the mention of gsd blood along with pups from another bitches litter to the same sire and another lads deerhound x dog.....shame we never got to see them mature..... No doubt plenty has been dragged from them since...... And folks sold a dream

[Black neck 16,003]

18 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

Looks the spit of a bitch my old mate had a good 15 yr ago....  Could shift and clever with it, White working shepard bitch but to a saluki grey dog called spring...... We put a merlin /eve bred dog called scout over her.....belonged to a wanker on here... Pups were 1/4 gsd all white or red with feathered ears few had wooly coats all made 25/26'' plus.....a few were sold, the ones we kept back were later stolen at around 9/10 months old and passed  on probably without the mention of gsd blood along with pups from another bitches litter to the same sire and another lads deerhound x dog.....shame we never got to see them mature..... No doubt plenty has been dragged from them since...... And folks sold a dream

I dont get how any one could steal some blokes dogs they put nowt into em just take um from some poor blokes yard then god knows what 

I just do know how them could do it the want them knackers lump hammering for a week or so

[billhardy 2,342]

 Nothing  worse no the feeling had more than a few stole it's a nightmare had a real in stole around seven yrs old Neva seen again travelled looking but to no avail heard he got shot to hot to handle.i doubt that he was top draw vennie jukel single handed clean silent killer, I now know many yrs later who took part in the deed,has they say things in time come out.at the time devoid now just laugh it. Off thinking of the sad  b*****ds ,they still Cuna make a good un .been on a mooch this evening with the first choice bitch pick from the malli. Lurcher  nest we bred  I feel this season she matured enough da. Bigger and better things she only been lightly worked on small edible  but I seen a change in her manerismtonight ,I think it snow gonna be her time this season she looks to have now got serious. Lol she been way slower in maturing. Than the other bitches.atb bill

[billhardy 2,342]

This bitch maybey about ten now f1 twenty six mad ta teeth fecking ,just owned by a shit handler lol.atb billBill