Black neck 15,872 Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, Daniel cain said: They all got a touch of wheaton except the brindle bitch who's linebred beddy bull grey. Yeah they all look the part mate Quote Link to post
MickC 1,825 Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) No other breed covers rough ground as good as a Deerhound or Deerhound cross . Ive seen a few good Collie cross out on hill over the years but best ive seen always had a bit Deerhound in the make up . Edited May 16, 2018 by MickC 2 Quote Link to post
Dabhand 887 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 7 hours ago, MickC said: No other breed covers rough ground as good as a Deerhound or Deerhound cross . Ive seen a few good Collie cross out on hill over the years but best ive seen always had a bit Deerhound in the make up . how would their stamina compare to a collie or hound cross mick in my experience a lighter smaller dog is best suited to run all day and the larger dogs blow up quicker also seems that down here the bigger heavy dogs cant seem to turn or accelerate as quick as the smaller nimble dog on the steep banks and rocks and they seem to pick up less knocks thanks 1 Quote Link to post
tank34 2,341 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 My two old beddy x was very good on hills for finding both could hunt up like a hound Quote Link to post
MickC 1,825 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Dabhand said: how would their stamina compare to a collie or hound cross mick in my experience a lighter smaller dog is best suited to run all day and the larger dogs blow up quicker also seems that down here the bigger heavy dogs cant seem to turn or accelerate as quick as the smaller nimble dog on the steep banks and rocks and they seem to pick up less knocks thanks The stamina on these dogs were as good as anything I've seen run out on the proper hill amongst the crag/heather and what we were running the bigger dogs were more suited. The Deerhound/Deerhound cross gait seems to let them run almost effortlessly over rough ground,il be first to admit fast dogs on the flat can make a Deerhound/Deerhound cross look slow and even clumsy but get them out on the environment they are meant for and you will see a different animal and that's when they come into there own. I have never run hound cross on this type of terrain so that's why I never mentioned them but I have seen plenty of other cross ran out on the hill with us and the Deerhound/Deerhound cross always covered the ground the best. DeerhoundxBull Greyhound is a breeding what I'm looking at doing . 2 Quote Link to post
tank34 2,341 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, MickC said: The stamina on these dogs were as good as anything I've seen run out on the proper hill amongst the crag/heather and what we were running the bigger dogs were more suited. The Deerhound/Deerhound cross gait seems to let them run almost effortlessly over rough ground,il be first to admit fast dogs on the flat can make a Deerhound/Deerhound cross look slow and even clumsy but get them out on the environment they are meant for and you will see a different animal and that's when they come into there own. I have never run hound cross on this type of terrain so that's why I never mentioned them but I have seen plenty of other cross ran out on the hill with us and the Deerhound/Deerhound cross always covered the ground the best. DeerhoundxBull Greyhound is a breeding what I'm looking at doing . Don't think its size of dog it's how big dog Hart is 20tts beddy whippet an 22 tts beddy greyhound could work all day long an work hard on the hills or rough ground the two dogs are gone now Quote Link to post
MickC 1,825 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, tank34 said: Don't think its size of dog it's how big dog Hart is 20tts beddy whippet an 22 tts beddy greyhound could work all day long an work hard on the hills or rough ground the two dogs are gone now I used to run a 24" Beddy/Grey out on these same hills with the Deerhound cross for years and they left him for dead. It's got nothing to do with heart how a dog covers rough ground it's the dogs breeding/genetics that enable it to run ,heart only comes into it once the dog needs to come to terms with whatever it is running . Big dogs for big jobs certainly was the case what we were running . Edited May 17, 2018 by MickC 2 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Was out with a deerhound cross bitch 28tts with my beddy greyhound at 26tts and the deer hound cross covered the ground better in my opinion on the moors Edited May 17, 2018 by nothernlite Quote Link to post
tank34 2,341 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, MickC said: I used to run a 24" Beddy/Grey out on these same hills with the Deerhound cross for years and they left him for dead. It's got nothing to do with heart how a dog covers rough ground it's the dogs breeding/genetics that enable it to run ,heart only comes into it once the dog needs to come to terms with whatever it is running . Big dogs for big jobs certainly was the case what we were running . Yes big dogs for jobs , not into big stuff but my two was very handy for the job in hand an could work all day long on the hills moors woods on rock piles with terrier all ways give there best sometimes a bigger faster dog would of been handy 1 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,489 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 My bitch covers rocks really quickly she’s only 24 but got deerhound and collie in her she skips across the rough ground easily ! Quote Link to post
Dabhand 887 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 49 minutes ago, nothernlite said: Was out with a deerhound cross bitch 28tts with my beddy greyhound at 26tts and the deer hound cross covered the ground better in my opinion on the moors how did you find the bigger dog on stones and tight turns on hill northern light Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Dabhand said: how did you find the bigger dog on stones and tight turns on hill northern light It was sound mostly deep Heather we were running on Quote Link to post
white van man 3,299 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, Wales1234 said: My bitch covers rocks really quickly she’s only 24 but got deerhound and collie in her she skips across the rough ground easily ! That’s a good reason to put a similar bred dog over her!! Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,489 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, white van man said: That’s a good reason to put a similar bred dog over her!! Iv thought about it and if I needed to iv got a dog lined up for her , but iv only got room for two lurchers now and the gwpx pup is here and showing goods signs so probably won’t ever happen Quote Link to post
white van man 3,299 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, Wales1234 said: Iv thought about it and if I needed to iv got a dog lined up for her , but iv only got room for two lurchers now and the gwpx pup is here and showing goods signs so probably won’t ever happen Yeah think that cross would have suited me. Like you say , only worth breeding her if you wanted a pup back or to keep lines going. Be interesting to see how the GWP x turns out. Quote Link to post
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