Lurcher pup

[Lurcherman332 75]

Every post on here ends up with a slagging match it’s ridiculous, anyway thanks for the advice people il keep posted on her progress.

[Casso 1,261]

Totally agree, well done on your degree 

the only issue I have with that is , a dog never has a psychological problem , it only ever has a physical one 

a dog resolves a problem , physically 

a problem dog,  be it dog aggression , human aggression , aggressive when on the lead , all arise because a dog feels stuck , unable to move physically , it’s feels acted upon and needs a physical expression 

fear is resolved through energetic output  , stimulation resolved in the same manner , physically moving its body and that’s the crux of understanding canine behaviour 

you can spend hours sitting whispering kissing a dog who is holding onto fear for its owner and achieve f**k all because nothing is moving 

the most obvious signs of fear are displayed with high value items , food , caught prey , really meaning full objects  the dog values 

just the same as us , if we can’t trust ,/ hold fear of someone ,we don’t feel comfortable with lending them money or any highly valued objects, it doesn’t feel right 

you can resolve more in a couple of hours of trust building exercises that you can in days of patting it on the head and talking sweetly to it 

social behaviour, is a by product of trust built over time because the dog fully tunes into its owner , what I want the dog wants, it’s doesnt break down in highly charged moments because the dog can still feel what I feel 

Street dogs the world over arnt the ones killing humans and attacking dogs but highly socialised highly pampered mutts over here are ,?

 

 

 

[Casso 1,261]

10 minutes ago, Lurcherman332 said:

Every post on here ends up with a slagging match it’s ridiculous, anyway thanks for the advice people il keep posted on her progress.

Sorry bout that , just trying to make a point 

[socks 32,253]

All the above problems you name are down to bad sociolising as pups and could have easily been averted. Here's a simple analogy. Take collies, now you go into any remote farm and chances are the collie on that farm is going to bite you ... why ? Because it has had very limited contact with humans and so sees anybody as a threat ... yet the same breed attends crufts in their thousands to compete in agility dance and obedience and all are perfectly happy walking amongst hundreds of thousands of strangers. Why ? Early sociolising. 

[Casso 1,261]

Why does the collie on the farm nip and bite at cattle and sheep   Bad socialisation ? 

[Casso 1,261]

Why will a dog only be aggressive on a lead while otherwise is fine , 

why will a  dog just flip out one day out of the blue and before that showed no aggression ?

[nothernlite 18,089]

19 minutes ago, Casso said:

Why does the collie on the farm nip and bite at cattle and sheep   Bad socialisation ? 

Forgot the tyre biting 

[socks 32,253]

59 minutes ago, Casso said:

Why will a dog only be aggressive on a lead while otherwise is fine , 

why will a  dog just flip out one day out of the blue and before that showed no aggression ?

Because it's fighting with its flight fright fight instinct which it wouldn't do if it was socialised 

[socks 32,253]

1 hour ago, Casso said:

Why does the collie on the farm nip and bite at cattle and sheep   Bad socialisation ? 

Because that's it's job. The same as a police dog will bite lumps out of a criminal but sit in a school classroom with kids perfectly fine ....

[Casso 1,261]

19 minutes ago, socks said:

Because it's fighting with its flight fright fight instinct which it wouldn't do if it was socialised 

Every mutt in these isles has been socialised as is the norm for the last 10 years but the shelters are growing ?

basically you putting any instance of aggression down to not been socialised , is that what your saying ?

 

[Casso 1,261]

23 minutes ago, socks said:

Because that's it's job. The same as a police dog will bite lumps out of a criminal but sit in a school classroom with kids perfectly fine ....

So if a bullock came up the lane the same as a person and got nipped and ran , one is bad socialisation and the other is it’s job , can ya not see the link ? 

[Casso 1,261]

Socialisation is the new cure all for dog aggression , 

how were dogs able to hold their shit together years ago before socialisation ?

 

[Casso 1,261]

46 minutes ago, socks said:

Because that's it's job. The same as a police dog will bite lumps out of a criminal but sit in a school classroom with kids perfectly fine ....

The reason it can contrast between two environments is because it’s shown  what to bite first and when to bite,  not the other way round 

they show it what to do with its energy first that’s how a protection dog knows go from no , nothing in the hell to do with socialisation 

[socks 32,253]

1 hour ago, Casso said:

The reason it can contrast between two environments is because it’s shown  what to bite first and when to bite,  not the other way round 

they show it what to do with its energy first that’s how a protection dog knows go from no , nothing in the hell to do with socialisation 

Have you got any experience with working protection dogs ??? I have and again your talking nonsense .......

[Casso 1,261]

19 minutes ago, socks said:

Have you got any experience with working protection dogs ??? I have and again your talking nonsense .......

 

plenty, but I don’t hide behind”  I’m this and I’ve done that”  ,it might impress some but you’ve a limited knowledge of why and how of behaviour ,  you don’t really understand dogs, your ego won’t let you open your mind,  if  you could debate behaviour like an adult ,  I’m all ears but there’s nothing behind the bravado ,