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[South hams hunter 8,921]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

Yeah, so they should be allowed to die......it’s OK to say it if it’s your opinion.

I told you my opinion so stop acting like a cowardly weasel and twisting my words , I have answered you clearly

[South hams hunter 8,921]

2 hours ago, ChrisJones said:

True that. Also in many countries, they wouldn't have the money to keep up the treatment either. Would there be an issue if there was no government healthcare and the ability to keep someone alive was based on your chequebook and charity from others?

If the state shouldn't be allowed to make this decision what determining factors should there be? If the NHS was a fully private system that had no taxpayer contributions would this story have hit the headlines at all? He'd be in Italy now and they could use whatever machinery they pleased to kick around this political football.

That' it Chris, the Pope only cares because it' in the media and wants to make the noncey church look better

[South hams hunter 8,921]

47 minutes ago, stumfelter said:

Am I the only one on here who finds it ironic that your on here saying that the British taxpayer (via the NHS ) should spend millions keeping vegetables alive when you bailed out and don't pay British taxes? Smells of do as I say and not as I do to me.....

Nope .. your one of many. 

[South hams hunter 8,921]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

I think you are talking about two vastly different things.......one involves going into care and one involves going in a coffin mate.

Just my take on your question.

 

2 hours ago, Rusty_terrier said:

Well dont you think doctors amd nhs are basing this on the merit of this case. They arent allowing every ill child to die because they feel like it.

Exactly rusty, they don' just go well the kids been here a few days now stuff him... they do their best but unfortunately medical science is sometimes behind dseases 

[Francie 6,368]

27 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

 

Exactly rusty, they don' just go well the kids been here a few days now stuff him... they do their best but unfortunately medical science is sometimes behind dseases 

You just dont seem to get it shh, the family should have the right to choose whichever doctor they want for there son, can you not understand that?

As you say theyve done there best, an failed, an the family want to try elsewere, can you not understand this, an see that its wrong for judges to stop them???

[Kerny92 1,246]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

Yeah, so they should be allowed to die......it’s OK to say it if it’s your opinion.

Do you believe people with a terminal illness suffering in pain should be kept alive at all costs or given the option to slip away peacefully? 

 

It's disgusting how my grandmother was allowed to suffer until she was a breathing corpse just before she passed away, if i had the choice she would have been euthanized rather than suffer till the end.

Edited April 26, 2018 by Kerny92

[South hams hunter 8,921]

12 minutes ago, Francie said:

You just dont seem to get it shh, the family should have the right to choose whichever doctor they want for there son, can you not understand that?

As you say theyve done there best, an failed, an the family want to try elsewere, can you not understand this, an see that its wrong for judges to stop them???

But what are they going to do exactly? They move poorly kids all the time if it' what' best for the kids. 

[South hams hunter 8,921]

8 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said:

So what about when parents resfuse medical treatment as they believein spiritual or some other type of non medical healing ?

 

Thats not just for francie. Wilf as well

Fair point mate, like jehovahs not allowing blood transfusions 

[scothunter 12,609]

Family of Jehovah's up here let there kid die when's transfusion could have saved him.

That's actually a good point  guess the courts are just as bad at hypocrisy they ought to have stepped in and made a court order. 

Religious beliefs must be honoured eh total nonsense.

Incidentally the Dr who was in charge of that case was reprimanded cause he called the parents"selfish f***ing idiot's" . 

[WILF 46,639]

16 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

Fair point mate, like jehovahs not allowing blood transfusions 

If you eat anymore arsehole today you won’t have room for your dinner !

 

Scot mate, fair point but I think the deciding factor has to be harm don’t you reckon ?

In this lads case, they are just saying there’s no hope and there won’t be any quality of life so we may as well switch off.

I think that is a different thing mate but I can accept other may see it as the same.

[WILF 46,639]

31 minutes ago, Kerny92 said:

Do you believe people with a terminal illness suffering in pain should be kept alive at all costs or given the option to slip away peacefully? 

 

It's disgusting how my grandmother was allowed to suffer until she was a breathing corpse just before she passed away, if i had the choice she would have been euthanized rather than suffer till the end.

You have answered your own question with the “given a choice” line mate.......the point is, in this case, the parents are not being given a choice.

[South hams hunter 8,921]

4 minutes ago, WILF said:

If you eat anymore arsehole today you won’t have room for your dinner !

 

Scot mate, fair point but I think the deciding factor has to be harm don’t you reckon ?

How am I eating asshole exactly weasel?

[scothunter 12,609]

7 minutes ago, WILF said:

If you eat anymore arsehole today you won’t have room for your dinner !

 

Scot mate, fair point but I think the deciding factor has to be harm don’t you reckon ?

In this lads case, they are just saying there’s no hope and there won’t be any quality of life so we may as well switch off.

I think that is a different thing mate but I can accept other may see it as the same.

Oh I wasn't comparing in fact it's actually got me thinking why if one case warranted over ruling the parents wishes why this wasn't if the courts are basing  it on the best interests of the child.

Tbh I don't really know how old the kid was or if he was suffering. Or if it's just religious shit takes precedence. But surely if a life could be saved as easy as a transfusion then it should have been done. But then a lot of you are all for parents wishes and rights and no interference from the state. 

Need to ask someone. How old this kid was.but in Pretty sure he was young I know folk in the village don't speak to them after it. 

[South hams hunter 8,921]

14 minutes ago, scothunter said:

 But then a lot of you are all for parents wishes and rights and no interference from the state. 

 

It' as and when though isn' it

[stumfelter 3,034]

What I'm struggling with is if the NHS is "already paid for" and "awash with cash" the doctors must all be sadists who just like watching kiddies die, I'll bet they're all rubbing their hands together with glee at the thought of it, the b*stards. Meanwhile in the real world....