Welsh_red 4,644 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, WILF said: I’m against killing unborn children Buck shee Im against the state ordering the death of a child in hospital Hope that clears things up. Not really ,what's a buck shee 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,127 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: Not really ,what's a buck shee with abandon.....or no thought...or will nilly 2 Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said: If the parents were to just remove him from the hospital and take him to awaiting helicopter could they actually stop them. With the courts backing the hospital I'd say yes they could, the parents are having to apply to possibly take him home to die...they've basically kidnapped him, won't let him out Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 It's been allowed to take the lad home. Well so in led to believe Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: Not really ,what's a buck shee buckshee is free of charge Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Accusing the doctors of wrongdoing, accusing the government of putting a price on life, accusing the parents of milking the media, asking where a parents rights to their children ends etc etc is all noise. Filter all that out and your left with the basic question of should the state really be making the decision that this little baby is better off dead than what suffering he may go through to have a chance at fighting for life? If we just accept that everyone involved wants the best for the kid then does the state really have a right to interfere here? Is it too soon? No blaming doctors, no blaming parents, no blaming judges. Simply at what point are you not allowed the right to fight for your life... 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just read this in one of the article, about sums up my opinion “It is a very dangerous thing when the state determines whether a life is worth living or not" 3 Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Accusing the doctors of wrongdoing, accusing the government of putting a price on life, accusing the parents of milking the media, asking where a parents rights to their children ends etc etc is all noise. Filter all that out and your left with the basic question of should the state really be making the decision that this little baby is better off dead than what suffering he may go through to have a chance at fighting for life? If we just accept that everyone involved wants the best for the kid then does the state really have a right to interfere here? Is it too soon? No blaming doctors, no blaming parents, no blaming judges. Simply at what point are you not allowed the right to fight for your life... at no point ,,,.that is a basic instinct to fight for life .. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,789 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, riohog said: buckshee is free of charge Bad use of terminology on my part, I meant just as you please. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,818 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dave88 said: Just read this in one of the article, about sums up my opinion “It is a very dangerous thing when the state determines whether a life is worth living or not" 99% of the time the sheep will do as their told Dave. Has it got to the stage that if he was taken to Rome and he made an improvement it shows the drs up as being wrong AGAIN. Edited April 26, 2018 by dogmandont 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,789 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: Not really ,what's a buck shee What exactly are you finding difficult to understand about an opinion that: Dont believe in being able to end the life of unborn children willy nilly (adjust made there on the terminology) Don’t believe the state should be alowed to end the life of a child in hospital against the wishes of his parents (or even at all?) I don’t quiet know what’s difficult to understand ? Edited April 26, 2018 by WILF Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,789 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Accusing the doctors of wrongdoing, accusing the government of putting a price on life, accusing the parents of milking the media, asking where a parents rights to their children ends etc etc is all noise. Filter all that out and your left with the basic question of should the state really be making the decision that this little baby is better off dead than what suffering he may go through to have a chance at fighting for life? If we just accept that everyone involved wants the best for the kid then does the state really have a right to interfere here? Is it too soon? No blaming doctors, no blaming parents, no blaming judges. Simply at what point are you not allowed the right to fight for your life... If it’s too barbaric to put a peadophile to death then surely it must follow that it’s too barbaric to put an innocent toddler to death?.......or is that just my twisted logic ? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, WILF said: If it’s too barbaric to put a peadophile to death then surely it must follow that it’s too barbaric to put an innocent toddler to death?.......or is that just my twisted logic ? the child did not comit a henous crime the pedo did ,he made a choice to commit that crime the pedo knew the consiquences .. Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Well if ever I take a stroke or am crippled where my quality of life is shit and im able to. im off to Switzerland to end it if im not able to do it myself, and all those pro life c**ts can go f**k themselves. Not that they would care anyway there no story or media hype in my suffering or demise. If I can't travel to dignatas maybe if I piss off born hunter he will travel up and shoot me lol 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, WILF said: If it’s too barbaric to put a peadophile to death then surely it must follow that it’s too barbaric to put an innocent toddler to death?.......or is that just my twisted logic ? I get what you're saying. If we take the view that if there is any chance of a decision that results in death being wrong then surely we do not ever opt for that and the same applies here. Surely the fact that there is a chance that forbidding further healthcare could be the wrong choice, could be stopping the little fella winning the fight for life means 'we' have to allow it. I'm inclined to agree, though I don't think your comparison is a great one. It's all about balance and where we draw the line. We all draw the line somewhere, very few would honestly not ever say "no enough is enough, it's time to step in here". Unsurprisingly I think the balance is way too far in favour of the state rather than the individual. Unfortunately cases like this make us actually put a value on life. Whether that's costed in sterling, man hours or suffering. I think that is just an unfortunate and inescapable reality of life. Edited April 26, 2018 by Born Hunter Link to post Share on other sites
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