hjckcff 1,738 Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Yeah I meant both yours and pollypockets dogs mate. my bad Quote Link to post
Busher100 739 Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Did any of her litter mates make anything decent? Quote Link to post
hjckcff 1,738 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 no . not that i know of anyway. most where to heavy. one was brought back at twelve months . wasnt even leash trained. and lethal with anything that moved. including all stock. he wasnt passed on again. as the saying goes some fell on stoney ground.. he was the best made of them all. 1 Quote Link to post
Busher100 739 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 Bet he could of been decent if he was reared right 1 Quote Link to post
hjckcff 1,738 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 13 hours ago, Busher100 said: Bet he could of been decent if he was reared right i still recon that this cross straight back to a greyhound would produce some handy dogs. but have to say i had a whippet/beddy first cross . he was hard as nails and would work below like a terrier if needed. he would have been the dog to put over the bitch. and i have to say you will get better results using working bred wheaten or beddy if you can find the right stuff. jmo 3 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,840 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 I’m sorry born mate but a lad I knew very wellhad a fell terrier x deerhound / grey from an accidental line it was arguably the worst lurcher I’ve ever seen gutless, it justvwasnt strong enough for that heavy work , windy, deaf, a liability around dogs, and worst of all ...... it sounded like a hound when running ! I don’t keep a running dog these days but to be honest a good bull pisses all over whatever a bedlington has to offer , and an earth dog hybrid will always bark or sound off as that’s is nature .., a good bull type should do all you want it to do. Don’t forget that for every poser, there are some serious , serious bull xs out there worked by proper dog lads keep the dream in your head pal and get a beddy cross with a splash of bull...... Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,898 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: I’m sorry born mate but a lad I knew very wellhad a fell terrier x deerhound / grey from an accidental line it was arguably the worst lurcher I’ve ever seen gutless, it justvwasnt strong enough for that heavy work , windy, deaf, a liability around dogs, and worst of all ...... it sounded like a hound when running ! I don’t keep a running dog these days but to be honest a good bull pisses all over whatever a bedlington has to offer , and an earth dog hybrid will always bark or sound off as that’s is nature .., a good bull type should do all you want it to do. Don’t forget that for every poser, there are some serious , serious bull xs out there worked by proper dog lads keep the dream in your head pal and get a beddy cross with a splash of bull...... Gordon Bennett that was harsh Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted July 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) On 11/05/2018 at 18:12, THE STIFFMEISTER said: I’m sorry born mate but a lad I knew very wellhad a fell terrier x deerhound / grey from an accidental line it was arguably the worst lurcher I’ve ever seen gutless, it justvwasnt strong enough for that heavy work , windy, deaf, a liability around dogs, and worst of all ...... it sounded like a hound when running ! I don’t keep a running dog these days but to be honest a good bull pisses all over whatever a bedlington has to offer , and an earth dog hybrid will always bark or sound off as that’s is nature .., a good bull type should do all you want it to do. Don’t forget that for every poser, there are some serious , serious bull xs out there worked by proper dog lads keep the dream in your head pal and get a beddy cross with a splash of bull...... Not seen this post until now. Fair comment. This cross is still holding favour in the back of my head. Likely never happen, just a dream. I got a terrier pup a few months after posting this so don't want anything else for a fair while now anyway. One thing I would say though is that I wouldn't intend for it to match a bull cross. If I wanted a big strong dog, I have the offer on a pup from a very good mates bitch. Anyway I pulled this thread back up to add this Aussie Russell Greyhound. Edited July 12, 2019 by Born Hunter 2 Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted July 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 Allegedly a Russell Grey and a Bull Grey 1 Quote Link to post
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Busher100 739 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Born Hunter said: Not seen this post until now. Fair comment. This cross is still holding favour in the back of my head. Likely never happen, just a dream. I got a terrier pup a few months after posting this so don't want anything else for a fair while now anyway. One thing I would say though is that I wouldn't intend for it to match a bull cross. If I wanted a big strong dog, I have the offer on a pup from a very good mates bitch. Anyway I pulled this thread back up to add this Aussie Russell Greyhound. Not what I expected at all dog looks more than capable and certainly not too small if you could get a hard pne that dont yap bbet they'd be something decent Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted July 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Busher100 said: Not what I expected at all dog looks more than capable and certainly not too small if you could get a hard pne that dont yap bbet they'd be something decent Smart eh, I like em! I take on board what Stiffy et al say about them being sub par to a bull cross, which is a prevalent type so why try to find something rare. But only as a point and kill type. And even then I feel more uncomfortable with bull over terrier as the base simply because I don't like bulls. Out of all working breeds I find a working terrier the most likeable, temperament wise. I just don't trust bully things. I strongly suspect what attracts me to this breeding is not what most people want. The terrier base appeals to me because I like a smaller dog, I like an earthdogs temperament, I like dogs that are tough, robust, hardy, gritty, take life in their stride types and easy going. If they threw too heavy to lamp rabbits with and too ignorant and independent to work with, then yeah it'd be a mistake. Something like a 15" terrier from a line of biddable working terriers over a track bitch would be a real interesting breeding to me. Whether or not they had bottle would frankly be the least of my concerns. I'd almost take it as granted. Edited July 12, 2019 by Born Hunter 4 Quote Link to post
Busher100 739 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 59 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Smart eh, I like em! I take on board what Stiffy et al say about them being sub par to a bull cross, which is a prevalent type so why try to find something rare. But only as a point and kill type. And even then I feel more uncomfortable with bull over terrier as the base simply because I don't like bulls. Out of all working breeds I find a working terrier the most likeable, temperament wise. I just don't trust bully things. I strongly suspect what attracts me to this breeding is not what most people want. The terrier base appeals to me because I like a smaller dog, I like an earthdogs temperament, I like dogs that are tough, robust, hardy, gritty, take life in their stride types and easy going. If they threw too heavy to lamp rabbits with and too ignorant and independent to work with, then yeah it'd be a mistake. Something like a 15" terrier from a line of biddable working terriers over a track bitch would be a real interesting breeding to me. Whether or not they had bottle would frankly be the least of my concerns. I'd almost take it as granted. Funny you should say that I've a hard jagd here 15tts get hold of anything and a young coursing bred greyhound bitch who's started very well but it won't happen as that's not part of the plan 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,898 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, Busher100 said: Funny you should say that I've a hard jagd here 15tts get hold of anything and a young coursing bred greyhound bitch who's started very well but it won't happen as that's not part of the plan What's the plan stan Quote Link to post
Busher100 739 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Black neck said: What's the plan stan Ace x the greyhound bitch if she keeps it up 1 Quote Link to post
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