One for the army bods

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52 minutes ago, stumfelter said:

I'm watching a show called my fighting season about American troops in Afghanistan and was wondering why they don't send a dedicated sniper out on each patrol? I understand the theory of suppressive fire but as well as everybody rattling hundreds of rounds in the general direction surely having one marksman would make sense to actually kill the bad guy!

So to answer the  op 

a sniper or sharpshooter is relatively embedded into a larger scale patrol as a capability or on overwatch , 

butrven rhe best laid plans don’t survive the first contact. Invariably a sniper will or may seek the advantage of high ground etc but often it is tactically unavailable to site one in a gold standard ? position during a firefight. 

You cant just stop the battle while he lugs himself 300m underfire and settles into a position. You need to be agile and in your wits on the field of play. 

Ostensibly they can be pre sites as a picket to pass through in open ground etc or as an overwatch on vp but quite frankly to say that a rifle platoon needs a sniper to look after them is a little insulting 

 

 

 

[Jonnyb6161 80]

When I said "pretty much special forces" I wasn't trying to put them on the same level as the SAS and I apologise if I gave that impression. 

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40 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

LOL, alright that might be the wrong term. I was under the impression the mod bought a load of semi auto rifles in 308 to equip some troops with to give a patrol a longer range capability. Might be totally wrong, hence the question marks!

First Google result https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=597

Now again bh I apologise if I came across condescending, that was far from my intentions. 

I knew what lines you were on with the post before you wrote it and knew where you’d be taking the term from . 

The sharpshooter rifle was a force multiplier asset on herrick and each platoon or maybe even section hAd one , alongside the gpmg and lmg and underslung g ls

they Add range to a sections firepower granted but aren’t comparable to a true long. 

I’m a little out of touch with the rifle coys sops at present but I haven’t seen one in a while with the coys , more so with the brf lads and the sniper spotters as a secondary long perhaps? 

Anyway a good bit of tackle regardless 

well brought up ??

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6 minutes ago, Jonnyb6161 said:

When I said "pretty much special forces" I wasn't trying to put them on the same level as the SAS and I apologise if I gave that impression. 

Lol 

mate they have done a cheeky course , no more no less , 

[Jonnyb6161 80]

OK fair enough

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Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Now again bh I apologise if I came across condescending, that was far from my intentions. 

I knew what lines you were on with the post before you wrote it and knew where you’d be taking the term from . 

The sharpshooter rifle was a force multiplier asset on herrick and each platoon or maybe even section hAd one , alongside the gpmg and lmg and underslung g ls

they Add range to a sections firepower granted but aren’t comparable to a true long. 

I’m a little out of touch with the rifle coys sops at present but I haven’t seen one in a while with the coys , more so with the brf lads and the sniper spotters as a secondary long perhaps? 

Anyway a good bit of tackle regardless 

well brought up ??

I thought I could hear your eyebrow rise, lol. I thought you were being coy. My missunderstanding!

Yeah, that's basically what I had read about it. Was/is a complementary system to the 3 others mentioned in a patrol. I think I read somewhere too that the yanks have a similar weapon chambered in 30-06? M14 maybe? That struck me as a pokey tool for the job but perhaps too unconventional a cal for the UK.

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FIBUA?

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Is this a wah ? 

[Jonnyb6161 80]

Fighting In a Built Up Area.

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44 minutes ago, Kerny92 said:

They must also be cool, calm and collected. Likely the reason why the greatest of all time was a Finn. ?

That’s just clicked then, idiot 

unbelievablely my former username in my youth was the mans moniker 

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4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

I thought I could hear your eyebrow rise, lol. I thought you were being coy. My missunderstanding!

Yeah, that's basically what I had read about it. Was/is a complementary system to the 3 others mentioned in a patrol. I think I read somewhere too that the yanks have a similar weapon chambered in 30-06? M14 maybe? That struck me as a pokey tool for the job but perhaps too unconventional a cal for the UK.

An awkward round yes . 

Think the 303 is enough in the long role but to double handle that ammo into another weapon systemakes it a bit cack handed for us and our established calibres 

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3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

That’s just clicked then, idiot 

unbelievablely my former username in my youth was the mans moniker 

I'm lost here? I was referring to the legendary Simo Häyhä. ?

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So was I 

i was white death on an old hunting site lol 

i was only 15 though 

[stumfelter 3,034]

On one of the shows the guy said "he keeps popping round the corner of the building 200 yards away" and they all just kept blasting the building. I'd have thought any decent rifle and scope would manage at that range?

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It’s not the weapon system that’s the issue , it’s the utiliser