tilimangro 1,013 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just now, earth-thrower said: Your good here, (honestly),.....& you seem well capable of debating this with the man himself ? He isn’t interest in debating he likes what he has to say far more than the truth Quote Link to post
earth-thrower 493 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, Dave74 said: After following this very interesting debate, I can see a picture now and it looks like as per usual, human greed Sorry Dave, but you could also argue thats just to simple an explanation, for it all, too ? Quote Link to post
tilimangro 1,013 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 minute ago, earth-thrower said: Sorry Dave, but you could also argue thats just to simple an explanation, for it all, too ? I don’t think it is too simple an explaination why is the dvd being given to organisation like defra etc with no consultation from moletrappers why does jeff get to decide what is best for us Why are we as mole catchers not allowed to see what jeff is saying on this dvd sorry to step in and aswer for dave 1 Quote Link to post
earth-thrower 493 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dave74 said: Wonder what the vet fees were for appearing on the video,or shares in company of future trap sells No vets appeared in the video. Quote Link to post
earth-thrower 493 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 minute ago, tilimangro said: I don’t think it is too simple an explaination why is the dvd being given to organisation like defra etc with no consultation from moletrappers why does jeff get to decide what is best for us Why are we as mole catchers not allowed to see what jeff is saying on this dvd sorry to step in and aswer for dave All good questions,...... Quote Link to post
Dave74 107 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 You could be right but everyday I like to wake up and remind myself to be greatful of the simple things Quote Link to post
tilimangro 1,013 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, earth-thrower said: No vets appeared in the video. 3 minutes ago, earth-thrower said: No vets appeared in the video. Did any moles?? just kidding yoi said vets opinions or they were consulted if they put their name to anything on the video it won’t have been for free Quote Link to post
earth-thrower 493 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, tilimangro said: Did any moles?? just kidding yoi said vets opinions or they were consulted if they put their name to anything on the video it won’t have been for free A dont think names were mentioned Quote Link to post
Dave74 107 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, earth-thrower said: No vets appeared in the video. Sorry I may have meant how much for there opinions,I did read in a post vets were involved Quote Link to post
tilimangro 1,013 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, earth-thrower said: A dont think names were mentioned Then how do we know vets were actually consulted its worthless I could tell you I take a vet out with me trapping everyday to ensure they die humanely unless the vet backs me up I’m pretty sure you won’t believe me 1 Quote Link to post
earth-thrower 493 Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) On 02/11/2018 at 15:29, Torquemada said: Putange traps need no modification. They are efficient and humane killing tool straight out of the box. I'll be honest with you mate I think that you're talking the biggest load of bullocks I've heard in a long long time. "they are efficient and humane killing tool" ?,.....just curious, (cause of your confidence in them ?) where does YOUR putanges strike the mole to guarantee this ? Also how does your mole pass on... would you know if its from cardiac arrest, or unconsciousness (which its not possible to awake from ?),.....or is it even asphyxiation ? or something else ? (another condition from the injury inflicted, possibly ?) Edited November 9, 2018 by earth-thrower Quote Link to post
earth-thrower 493 Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 23 hours ago, tilimangro said: Then how do we know vets were actually consulted its worthless I could tell you I take a vet out with me trapping everyday to ensure they die humanely unless the vet backs me up I’m pretty sure you won’t believe me I hear you,...lol Quote Link to post
Mr Wasp 187 Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, earth-thrower said: "they are efficient and humane killing tool" ?,.....just curious, (cause of your confidence in them ?) where does YOUR putanges strike the mole to guarantee this ? Also how does your mole pass on... would you know if its from cardiac arrest, or unconsciousness (which its not possible to awake from ?),.....or is it even asphyxiation ? or something else ? (another condition from the injury inflicted, possibly ?) This symbol ? is called a question mark. You use it at the end of a question. Example: Is Jeff a twat? No need to add it to the end of every fecking sentence, that is what a full stop is for. Just a heads up.... 1 Quote Link to post
earth-thrower 493 Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, Mr Wasp said: This symbol ? is called a question mark. You use it at the end of a question. Example: Is Jeff a twat? No need to add it to the end of every fecking sentence, that is what a full stop is for. Just a heads up.... lol,..its been pointed out to me before that, but i wont be stopping it. Now , is that your contribution here ?,..cause perhaps youd have been better saying f**k all ! ,....& your comment regarding Jeff,....well, your definitely qualified to be the judge of that overall, are you ? Quote Link to post
tilimangro 1,013 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 10 hours ago, earth-thrower said: "they are efficient and humane killing tool" ?,.....just curious, (cause of your confidence in them ?) where does YOUR putanges strike the mole to guarantee this ? Also how does your mole pass on... would you know if its from cardiac arrest, or unconsciousness (which its not possible to awake from ?),.....or is it even asphyxiation ? or something else ? (another condition from the injury inflicted, possibly ?) The Putange either strike the skull or they hit the chest in the exact same area as the barrels as I’ve said before you can adjust Putange triggers to get a kill where you want it when they hit the skull or vertebrae it’s instant death or unconsciousness that they do not recover ffrom when they hit in the same chest area as the barrels they achieve the exact same result as the barrels except I think they’re more efficient I don’t want to get into terminology on a public forum I don’t overly like talking about foul catches I’m a public forum but the action of the Putange jaws cross over at the end and these achieve desired result its interesting how jeff and Martin can discuss the Putange despite never owning them theyve made false claims they’re pegged down to stop them being dragged when it is infact to stop them being pushed away my offer of sending you a pair will always stand i wouldn’t dare comment the way they have on something I know nothing about ive used pretty much every miletrap going including Bavarian loops which I didn’t think were humane and ceased i have very happily stuck to Putange talpex and the odd barrel as these are through my own experience time and time again humane i spoke to defra and natural England yesterday neither could send me a copy of the dvd and neither knew anything about it 2 Quote Link to post
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