Dave74 107 Posted May 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 Yes I agree and think there great traps due to the success rate,as mentioned the 1 downfall is it takes time to check them in situ. 1 Quote Link to post
LuckOrJudgement 437 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 It's only a minor issue for me, and anyway we traditional trappers don't need high tech. Might end up out of a job. My first experience of man versus mole was 40 years ago, as a small kid. Me and Dad watched in wonder as our neighbour hosed up the exhaust pipe of his Capri to a mole hill in his front garden and revved the living daylights out of it. Can't remember what happened to the mole but I hope he escaped! 2 Quote Link to post
tilimangro 1,013 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 For the most part if I set putange on a run I can pretty much be sure the moles in them thats the beauty of them they’re bombproof and deadly if I get them backfilled I switch to talpex and it’s game over 1 Quote Link to post
Dave74 107 Posted May 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 6 hours ago, tilimangro said: For the most part if I set putange on a run I can pretty much be sure the moles in them thats the beauty of them they’re bombproof and deadly if I get them backfilled I switch to talpex and it’s game over This is what I have been doing,the combination of the 2 trap types leaves the mole with borrowed time Quote Link to post
Dave74 107 Posted May 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 Here’s 1 yesterday in the talpex,as mentioned the mole in question was a putange bulldozer,he tryed bulldozing the talpex and it was game over for him. Quote Link to post
Devon Minnow 152 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 All traps have there advantages and disadvantages, the putange is cheap, very simple and effective my only grip with it is how humane is it.yes the moles are dead when I check the traps. Prime example was this morning, two trap sites all the trap set the same first mole was caught round one leg large male and the second one caught round the stomach. Neither a quick end. I have also heard of moles struggling for over 25 minutes in a new British made Duffus trap 1 Quote Link to post
tilimangro 1,013 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 I’ve caught In a putange several times when I was on site still everytine the mole was dead all traps can give foul catches that is down to the operator and not the trap even Jeff Nichols who seemingly wants to bring in mandatory 24 hour trap checking says he has foul catches with his own designed traps and he cuts the loop and throws them away when. It occurs there are cheap copies of all traps out there and if you use these expecting human catches your deluding youraelf the putange and talpex and some barrels and the Fenn scissor when set properly are incredibly humane 4 Quote Link to post
LuckOrJudgement 437 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 Right trap secured in the right terrain = humane despatch. Just chucking them into mole hills or poking them into galleries isn't going to cut it. 2 Quote Link to post
Dave74 107 Posted May 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 I don’t think there’s ever a way of guaranteeing a perfect catch,we’ve all had some bad catches right?even when you have taken the time to set the trap as perfect as you can.if you set the traps your trying to catch moles . Quote Link to post
tilimangro 1,013 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 32 minutes ago, Dave74 said: I don’t think there’s ever a way of guaranteeing a perfect catch,we’ve all had some bad catches right?even when you have taken the time to set the trap as perfect as you can.if you set the traps your trying to catch moles . Everyone has bad catches even self serving mole gurus like Jeff nichols however rather than moving on the important thing is to learn from it and not repeat the same mistakes its also best not to publicise as I fear those in charge will be under great pressure to scrutinise us mole catchers a lot closer in the future thats why the guild pisses me off they’re just making mole catchers fall out with each other when we should be more united 2 2 Quote Link to post
Dave74 107 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Another nice clean catch today there popping up everywhere now again 2 Quote Link to post
LuckOrJudgement 437 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 On 25/10/2018 at 10:08, Dave74 said: Another nice clean catch today there popping up everywhere now again Can you tell em to get a move on here in East Anglia! Starting to wonder if that dry summer did em any favours. 1 Quote Link to post
earth-thrower 493 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 On 29/05/2018 at 19:08, tilimangro said: Everyone has bad catches even self serving mole gurus like Jeff nichols however rather than moving on the important thing is to learn from it and not repeat the same mistakes its also best not to publicise as I fear those in charge will be under great pressure to scrutinise us mole catchers a lot closer in the future thats why the guild pisses me off they’re just making mole catchers fall out with each other when we should be more united My intent was not to reply publicly on here anymore, ..but i felt compelled too here. ha ha,......its of course ok, to criticise "jeff nichols" ? but i also believe he is well intentioned. & hes probably the most intelligent mole catcher ive ever come across & yes his priority is humaneness of operation & approach, above all else,.....but this doesnt suit alot of other mole catchers you see ? for a few reasons. (well, in my opinion, at least) & NO, im not a member of any mole catching organisation, & i knew about the prospect of the first at the concept stage, & had the opportunity to get involved, but declined. What you should also know is that Jeff isnt motivated ONLY for profit,......but thats certainly not the case for all the other associations that were formed since !! Quote Link to post
earth-thrower 493 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) On 29/05/2018 at 07:20, tilimangro said: I’ve caught In a putange several times when I was on site still everytine the mole was dead all traps can give foul catches that is down to the operator and not the trap even Jeff Nichols who seemingly wants to bring in mandatory 24 hour trap checking says he has foul catches with his own designed traps and he cuts the loop and throws them away when. It occurs there are cheap copies of all traps out there and if you use these expecting human catches your deluding youraelf the putange and talpex and some barrels and the Fenn scissor when set properly are incredibly humane From what ive just been educated about myself , fairly recently, youd be surprised what type of mole traps ACTUALLY ARE "incredibly humane" in reality, afterall ! (& i was just as ignorant as anybody else, in that regard) & the wee "Fenn scissor" what , is the spring much improved nowadays ? compared to when i used them exclusively for a couple of years, many moons ago, when i didnt know any better ! lol Edited October 29, 2018 by earth-thrower Quote Link to post
tilimangro 1,013 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, earth-thrower said: My intent was not to reply publicly on here anymore, ..but i felt compelled too here. ha ha,......its of course ok, to criticise "jeff nichols" ? but i also believe he is well intentioned. & hes probably the most intelligent mole catcher ive ever come across & yes his priority is humaneness of operation & approach, above all else,.....but this doesnt suit alot of other mole catchers you see ? for a few reasons. (well, in my opinion, at least) & NO, im not a member of any mole catching organisation, & i knew about the prospect of the first at the concept stage, & had the opportunity to get involved, but declined. What you should also know is that Jeff isnt motivated ONLY for profit,......but thats certainly not the case for all the other associations that were formed since !! You’d have done well to stick to your guns in not replying publicly The Apmc hasn’t charged its members for several seasons as far as it aware and fought Jeff tooth and nail on his ridiculous 24 hour mandatory trap checking anyone doing one of Jeffs courses is told that the only trap they need is the barrel trap they also happen to be selling there they are also pushed to buy two probes and of all things a roller for ramping down the run but no im sure you’re right jeffs not at all all about the money some of his higher up members have been very vocal and publicly so about the only trap that should be legal is the trap that they endorse (what a surprise) 1 Quote Link to post
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