3/4 Greyhound 1/4 Collie

[poxon 5,741]

2 minutes ago, darbo said:

Thanks phil cracking pic.

Is this chuckles?

[Busher100 740]

8 hours ago, FastDogz said:

No your telling me. Ive had this guy 4 years. He's a rescue. Background unknown and hes a nervous wreck. When he's happy he's very happy but look at him the wrong way and he LITERALLY fucks off with the nearest family and i mean literally. Weve had 4 years of trying, consoling him, ignoring him, rewarding happy state of mind, everything...as you say its just not there. Husband says "let it go!" and walks off embarrassed, i always go and talk him into coming back 

A better trainer would be able to make him come back no matter how you look at him (I'm not that trainer btw) . Coming back when you call is the most very basic obedience there is. When I said you can't put what's not there in my mind that only applies to balls, speed and to a certain point stamina.

[FastDogz 155]

2 hours ago, Busher100 said:

A better trainer would be able to make him come back no matter how you look at him (I'm not that trainer btw) . Coming back when you call is the most very basic obedience there is. When I said you can't put what's not there in my mind that only applies to balls, speed and to a certain point stamina.

Exactly my point he has no balls. Hes a rescue dog he knew nothing when he came to me and hes recall was zilch. He now comes back 99.9% of the time unless something upsets/worry him then he goes into meltdown. So i think ive trained him quite  well tbh. He can do come back, sit, retrieve, down, stay & blind stay. I dont claim to be a worldbeater trainer TBH I dont NEED bags of Speed (most mutts can catch a rabbit), Stamina and Balls ( wont be doing anything bigger than a bunny so not dosnt have be hitting teeth single handed and fighting off lions) like said pup will try his hand at things i mentioned, if hes no good or i fail to train him to standards hes a pet.

ATB

[Black neck 16,009]

2 hours ago, FastDogz said:

Exactly my point he has no balls. Hes a rescue dog he knew nothing when he came to me and hes recall was zilch. He now comes back 99.9% of the time unless something upsets/worry him then he goes into meltdown. So i think ive trained him quite  well tbh. He can do come back, sit, retrieve, down, stay & blind stay. I dont claim to be a worldbeater trainer TBH I dont NEED bags of Speed (most mutts can catch a rabbit), Stamina and Balls ( wont be doing anything bigger than a bunny so not dosnt have be hitting teeth single handed and fighting off lions) like said pup will try his hand at things i mentioned, if hes no good or i fail to train him to standards hes a pet.

ATB

Always train them on lions just in case 

[FastDogz 155]

4 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Always train them on lions just in case 

haha

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Goodonya FastDogz

 If a dog has temperament issues and is of a nervous disposition,..it is extremely hard to combat their disability,..and it is a disability.

The 21st-century lifestyle awards scant allowance for any canine (or human for that matter) that, for whatever reason, cannot fit in...

It is doubtful that you can remedy the affliction at this late hour, all you can do is try to understand the problems that the older dog faces and continue to show understanding. 

As for your new jukel,..get him out at the earliest possible time and allow him to see the world,..and not to fear anything...

 It is up to you now...

 All the best, Phil.

[shaaark 10,832]

3 hours ago, FastDogz said:

Exactly my point he has no balls. Hes a rescue dog he knew nothing when he came to me and hes recall was zilch. He now comes back 99.9% of the time unless something upsets/worry him then he goes into meltdown. So i think ive trained him quite  well tbh. He can do come back, sit, retrieve, down, stay & blind stay. I dont claim to be a worldbeater trainer TBH I dont NEED bags of Speed (most mutts can catch a rabbit), Stamina and Balls ( wont be doing anything bigger than a bunny so not dosnt have be hitting teeth single handed and fighting off lions) like said pup will try his hand at things i mentioned, if hes no good or i fail to train him to standards hes a pet.

ATB

Lol very good post that .  Although I will say that I slightly disagree with you about most mutts can catch a rabbit. On some places you are correct, but  some places where we go, you won't be catching any rabbits unless you've got a very quick dog. Some half cross collie/greys, and some of what their owners thought were pretty fast lurcher x lurcher types, have been found wanting for pace when we've gone out.  And the look on their faces was priceless lol.  Anyway, I digress, 'hitting teeth single handed' and 'fighting off lions' has made my day! Lol .

Edited just to add, this was a good while back, as these days I only go out with my son and his dog.  Don't take anyone anymore, far too much hassle and bother.

  Your pup looks very nice, good luck with him

Edited March 17, 2018 by shaaark

[FastDogz 155]

Thanks guys. Yeah maybe the any dog catching rabbits was a bit OTT  It just entered my head my old GSD/LAB cudnt catch a cold but she tried bless her. Fair point 

[FastDogz 155]

1 hour ago, Phil Lloyd said:

Goodonya FastDogz

 If a dog has temperament issues and is of a nervous disposition,..it is extremely hard to combat their disability,..and it is a disability.

The 21st-century lifestyle awards scant allowance for any canine (or human for that matter) that, for whatever reason, cannot fit in...

It is doubtful that you can remedy the affliction at this late hour, all you can do is try to understand the problems that the older dog faces and continue to show understanding. 

As for your new jukel,..get him out at the earliest possible time and allow him to see the world,..and not to fear anything...

 It is up to you now...

 All the best, Phil.

Oh hes going to be exposed to as much as the world has to offer from day one. Steady away as not to overwhelm him like. Im looking forward to it all tbh. 

 

Atb

[Shaddy93 840]

19 hours ago, FastDogz said:

Shaddy inbox me 

Don’t get one the man hasn’t got a clue his kennels are a shit tip he hasnt worked a dog for years and his daughters never seen a rabbit or anything else, he’s a puppy peddler that should be banned from owning dogs imo, if you want a pup to work go else where, I’m sure there’s some folk off here looking to do some mating this summer out of honest collie crosses, go to Hancock’s and you’ll be disappointed, never seen a good one come out of his kennels yet and iv seen atleast 10 work, that was enough for me

[Black neck 16,009]

Hee hee the lad really don't like hancocks ?

[Shaddy93 840]

1 minute ago, Black neck said:

Hee hee the lad really don't like hancocks ?

Haha give me 1 reason why anybody would like Hancock’s, the man himself and his daughter both nothing but money grabbing b*stards, can anybody speak up for his daughter? Because she told me to my face that she works them dogs I personally beleive it’s bs because when you start quizzing her she can’t answer you, David himself may have done abit in his day but he hasn’t done anything for years, I can’t support anyone who breeds lurchers to make money, it’s either for own use or nothing imo

[Black neck 16,009]

2 minutes ago, Shaddy93 said:

Haha give me 1 reason why anybody would like Hancock’s, the man himself and his daughter both nothing but money grabbing b*stards, can anybody speak up for his daughter? Because she told me to my face that she works them dogs I personally beleive it’s bs because when you start quizzing her she can’t answer you, David himself may have done abit in his day but he hasn’t done anything for years, I can’t support anyone who breeds lurchers to make money, it’s either for own use or nothing imo

 So are you saying you don't really rate them

[Shaddy93 840]

2 minutes ago, Black neck said:

 So are you saying you don't really rate them

Other than that hes alright ?

[FastDogz 155]

Bearing in mind im not going spefically for a working dog. Working parents arnt really important to me