FastDogz 155 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 As you say str 350 is nothing for hopefully 12 or more happy years. And you know what your getting the collies have been hip checked ect not to say the odd one wont develop something bad but same with anything. My 3 grand pony was an avid colicer, my last little pup in 2010 a Staff X Pit died at 15 months of a brain aunursym, but my free to good home pup my hubby got at 5 weeks runty little thing bull/whippet/collie is 10 in dec and touch wood never ailed a thing and still going strong and wanting to gallop hard. Luck of the draw i think. I wasnt aware it was colour dependant tbh. Puppy farm? Erm personally in my own humble opinion id say not as a puppy farm will usually keep dogs/pups in shit conds, churn out several breeds, unable to see parents, arrange to meet somewhere or deliever when you get your pup ect - Hancocks maybe marmite but seem nothing like this. Infact there quite responsible as Sally said she wont allow someone to take 2 pups unless therea a 12month gap between them. To ensure pup gets cared for, trained, adequately. She also tells you the pros and cons of the mix and wont think twice about saying if she dont think the dog would suit your life and wont let em go under 8weeks. So to me this isnt what i personally would class as a puppy farm. Atb ? Quote Link to post
FastDogz 155 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dinosaurs said: I must be odd then coz i’d pay more for a black & white one as dont like merles personally & cant stand Blue eyes on a dog. Just my preference. Atb My hubby was SELF and same until he met this He lifted him up, looked into his eyes and his first mumbled words were "Oh f**k" ... i knew then he was bought and he was VERY anti Merle esp Merles with blue eyes! 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,876 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) I know this aint really the topic, but it follows on with the colour preference. Whilst some lighter/paler merles are not my cup of tea, some of the really dark red or blue/black merles are striking looking dogs. The only colour of dog, whatever the breed, that literally makes me puke , are liver/chocolate or whatever the colour is called, with those sickly, horrible brown noses. ....... Edited March 28, 2018 by shaaark 3 Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,445 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, FastDogz said: As you say str 350 is nothing for hopefully 12 or more happy years. And you know what your getting the collies have been hip checked ect not to say the odd one wont develop something bad but same with anything. My 3 grand pony was an avid colicer, my last little pup in 2010 a Staff X Pit died at 15 months of a brain aunursym, but my free to good home pup my hubby got at 5 weeks runty little thing bull/whippet/collie is 10 in dec and touch wood never ailed a thing and still going strong and wanting to gallop hard. Luck of the draw i think. I wasnt aware it was colour dependant tbh. Puppy farm? Erm personally in my own humble opinion id say not as a puppy farm will usually keep dogs/pups in shit conds, churn out several breeds, unable to see parents, arrange to meet somewhere or deliever when you get your pup ect - Hancocks maybe marmite but seem nothing like this. Infact there quite responsible as Sally said she wont allow someone to take 2 pups unless therea a 12month gap between them. To ensure pup gets cared for, trained, adequately. She also tells you the pros and cons of the mix and wont think twice about saying if she dont think the dog would suit your life and wont let em go under 8weeks. So to me this isnt what i personally would class as a puppy farm. Atb ? iirc it was a failing poultry farm and BP devised a plan for him to farm lurchers which he's done for years. If people think £350 is steep should they really be buying a dog. By the way best of luck with your pup looks a cracker Edited March 28, 2018 by Gilbey missing word 2 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,876 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gilbey said: iirc it was a failing poultry farm and BP devised a plan for him to farm lurchers which he's done for years. If people think £350 is steep should they really be buying a dog. By the way best of luck your pup looks a cracker You're right in what you say. I said similar a couple of years back, in the shooting section. People moan about payng a certain price for a dog, but think nothing of spending more than a grand for an air rifle, or in many cases with shotguns, fecking thousands, yet begrudge spending a few hundred on a dog that'll last them 12 - 15 years! And the last few years, the prices of these 'cockerpugs' or whatever crossbred piece of shite, well, anywhere from £600 - £1200. f***ing madness!! £300 or thereabouts is peanuts really for a lurcher you can be sure about it's parentage As long as it aint got a brown nose lol Edited March 28, 2018 by shaaark 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,944 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 35 minutes ago, Gilbey said: iirc it was a failing poultry farm and BP devised a plan for him to farm lurchers which he's done for years. If people think £350 is steep should they really be buying a dog. By the way best of luck your pup looks a cracker not getting into the hancock thing, people will buy what they want at the time, its there money, but the thing about his dogs thats studs and dams, they never ever get out there pens, poor b*****ds are on concrete 24/7. ok you could by rubbish lurcher or pup, but if it had few runs or seen the odd rabbit , that 100 times better than what he does deff. and regards the price for a dog, i do think £ 350 quid to much for a lurcher , there plenty of lads that work there dogs + exercised every day , and you get good pup or dog for £120- 150 , both my 2 dogs that i got of lads on here cost no more than £ 45 quid , and it was money well spent. i see enough of these feckin cockapoos that fetch £ 800 quid , i tell the owners there same as mine x breeds , and tell them the price they were , there fooked they cant speak haha . Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,445 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bird said: not getting into the hancock thing, people will but what they want at the time, its there money, but the thing about his dogs thats studs and dams, they never ever get out there pens, poor b*****ds are on concrete 24/7. ok you could by rubbish lurcher or pup, but if it had few runs or seen the odd rabbit , that 100 times better than what he does deff. and regards the price for a dog, i do think £ 350 quid to much for a lurcher , there plenty of lads that work there dogs + exercised every day , and you get good pup or dog for £120- 150 , both my 2 dogs that i got of lads on here cost no more than £ 45 quid , and it was money well spent. i see enough of these feckin cockapoos that fetch £ 800 quid , i tell the owners there same as mine x breeds , and tell them the price they were , there fooked they cant speak haha . if you read my posts im against Hancock's. Was more thinking if your dog gets ripped from eye hole to arse hole on wire or something it ain't going to be cheap Edited March 28, 2018 by Gilbey Quote Link to post
bird 9,944 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gilbey said: if you read my posts im against Hancock's. Was more thinking if your dog gets ripped from eye hole to arse hole on wire or something it ain't going to be cheap i see what you mean with overall = feed,vets, injuries , yeh the outlay fair wack of money 52 weeks a year true, funny thing i was thinking about old Bryn the other day, as few dog walkers i meet think he looks great for his age he 11 in sep , he fit and well the old prat jumped a 5 bar gate ,after favorite quarry tree rats haha Quote Link to post
troyboy17 632 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 How many times do u see dogs advertised say dog is unauthorised spoilt and that from so called lurcher men that haven't bothered to take it out and I'm not a hancock fan but people on these sites never say anything about there mates that don't bother it's all about stick a knife into hancock I surgestions some of u take a look in the mirror 4 Quote Link to post
FastDogz 155 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, bird said: not getting into the hancock thing, people will buy what they want at the time, its there money, but the thing about his dogs thats studs and dams, they never ever get out there pens, poor b*****ds are on concrete 24/7. ok you could by rubbish lurcher or pup, but if it had few runs or seen the odd rabbit , that 100 times better than what he does deff. and regards the price for a dog, i do think £ 350 quid to much for a lurcher , there plenty of lads that work there dogs + exercised every day , and you get good pup or dog for £120- 150 , both my 2 dogs that i got of lads on here cost no more than £ 45 quid , and it was money well spent. i see enough of these feckin cockapoos that fetch £ 800 quid , i tell the owners there same as mine x breeds , and tell them the price they were , there fooked they cant speak haha . Can first hand say this is NOT true. We were met by Woody, Albus, Bocey and a fair few others frolicking and running loose on the yard. All were free to do as they wished and were steady balanced friendly dogs. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,876 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, FastDogz said: Can first hand say this is NOT true. We were met by Woody, Albus, Bocey and a fair few others frolicking and running loose on the yard. All were free to do as they wished and were steady balanced friendly dogs. I have to say, that was true the times I've been there. Many of the dogs were roaming around, and coming up to meet us etc. Albus in particular, seemed to like my company lol 1 Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, FastDogz said: As you say str 350 is nothing for hopefully 12 or more happy years. And you know what your getting the collies have been hip checked ect not to say the odd one wont develop something bad but same with anything. My 3 grand pony was an avid colicer, my last little pup in 2010 a Staff X Pit died at 15 months of a brain aunursym, but my free to good home pup my hubby got at 5 weeks runty little thing bull/whippet/collie is 10 in dec and touch wood never ailed a thing and still going strong and wanting to gallop hard. Luck of the draw i think. I wasnt aware it was colour dependant tbh. Puppy farm? Erm personally in my own humble opinion id say not as a puppy farm will usually keep dogs/pups in shit conds, churn out several breeds, unable to see parents, arrange to meet somewhere or deliever when you get your pup ect - Hancocks maybe marmite but seem nothing like this. Infact there quite responsible as Sally said she wont allow someone to take 2 pups unless therea a 12month gap between them. To ensure pup gets cared for, trained, adequately. She also tells you the pros and cons of the mix and wont think twice about saying if she dont think the dog would suit your life and wont let em go under 8weeks. So to me this isnt what i personally would class as a puppy farm. Atb ? It’s still puppy farming , whatever way you wrap it up , they’re not been given away , The dogs and bitches are there solely to produce pups , what the hell else can you call it ?? 3 1 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,809 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, shaaark said: I know this aint really the topic, but it follows on with the colour preference. Whilst some lighter/paler merles are not my cup of tea, some of the really dark red or blue/black merles are striking looking dogs. The only clour of dog, whatever the breed, that literally makes me puke , are liver/chocolate or whatever the colour is called, with those sickly, horrible brown noses. ....... Got a kennel full of dogs that color ..... Very mellow dogs in general, compared to different colour litter mates from past experiences. Can't blame a dog because of its colour fella. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,876 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Daniel cain said: Got a kennel full of dogs that color ..... Very mellow dogs in general, compared to different colour litter mates from past experiences. Can't blame a dog because of its colour fella. Not blaming any dog for it's colour. Might well be a worldbeater, I just can't stand the colour 1 Quote Link to post
Ptd87 304 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Got no probs with Hancock dogs ..... But I wouldn't have one, it isn't right keeping that many dogs just to breed them simple as .... Good luck to those who do, keeps on funding it ? 2 Quote Link to post
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