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It's not just the weight difference, though that does play a part. A heavily-muscled lump of a dog with a lot of Greyhound in it generates a lot more heat when it runs, and must take correspondingly l

some interesting theories, whippets always had more stamina than grey hounds that's a fact, where I grew up there  was loads of whippet raceing, and if you wanted more pace in your lurchers that's wha

He’s. bred bigland boy   non ped racer  x staff back to bigland lad   Son of bigland boy , 3/4 non ped 1/4 staff    Very fast dog only young ?

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Just now, Black neck said:

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Right this full ped moonlake whippet collie sire  dam Bert grip ton Jack Russell whippet good hard earth dog they both came twenty one inches and high prey drive determined little animals I believe with age the tide may be turning again and may well go back ta the little uns  they say if yas stay in the game long enough yas go full circle.we will see atb bunnys.

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15 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Sal whip collie Gray Wheaton bull deer beddy  giz a clue bill

Right this full ped moonlake whippet collie sire  dam Bert grip ton Jack Russell whippet good hard earth dog they both came twenty one inches and high prey drive determined little animals I believe with age the tide may be turning again and may well go back ta the little uns  they say if yas stay in the game long enough yas go full circle.we will see atb bunnys.

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3 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Had a collie whippet years ago was good enough i reckon a patt or any earth dog x whip would be good you ever seen 1?

seen lots a types with whippets fell types Earth dogs blacks Russell xes they will all do a job good fa little pesters dogs rats rabbits etc ,easy keep hearts of lions and some like the water if given opportunity has youngsters.all round they make great little hunting mooching walking shooting etc even seen one dug to things all preban of course..atb bunnys

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4 minutes ago, billhardy said:

seen lots a types with whippets fell types Earth dogs blacks Russell xes they will all do a job good fa little pesters dogs rats rabbits etc ,easy keep hearts of lions and some like the water if given opportunity has youngsters.all round they make great little hunting mooching walking shooting etc even seen one dug to things all preban of course..atb bunnys

Know a bloke that used to breed and still does tiny little beddy xs remember seeing 2 litter sisters that had to be dug to times and they had 60 odd munty between them pre ban like although I spoke to someone who skinned a few for him and said they were knackered not bad for dog's 17 18 inch tho

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2 hours ago, lifelong cumbrian said:

What is the non ped bred out of mate.

 

He’s. bred bigland boy   non ped racer  x staff back to bigland lad   Son of bigland boy , 3/4 non ped 1/4 staff    Very fast dog only young ?

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On 3/10/2018 at 23:04, billhardy said:

Been a good few coursing types with a lump of whippet in em and still his and got very good wind but there yas go I know doubt you know better tit.atb bunnys

In answer to your previous query at the mo I’m running a coursing type  

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but I do have a little experience of whippets and their hybrids as well as greyhounds and have run both in conjunction,  in truth I wouldn’t particularly want either as working dogs. Pure greys are just too much of a racing machine and whippets don’t have the size for the lamping that I do and alas it would be much the same for my day time stuff. A hybrid betwixt the two would be nearer the mark but with this breeding it’s a gamble on the stamina side, a high percentage lack stamina for longer stuff, and I’ve had enough of gambles of late losing a ¾ whippet with too much heart and not enough stamina recently.

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Prior to this spent many a time with a few of my brothers dogs, pure whippets, and had good fun with them chasing long ears over the years but unless the law was much reduced they weren’t really reliable catchers, as ever its horses for courses.  Indeed  my first ever lurcher, 50 years ago, was a 1st cross whippet X collie,  lovely bitch taught me more than I knew and forgave my many mistakes but alas to slow to catch a cold, straight lined by rabbits… since then two of my favorite lurchers  have had a 1/4 whippet and both were decent dogs but had no more stamina than others without the whippet.

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I’d agree that many whippets do punch well above their weight but in reality doing this day in day out is not a realistic choice so I’d stick to my ¼ whippet in a mix being enough, bringing the size/body mass  down can aid recover but then again so can breeding for a lighter built larger dog.

As for science waffle I’m always open to learning, 30 years ago I thought myself very knowledgeable about running dogs but have since learned that there’s always room for improvement and something new to learn. Better to be ready to learn more than it is to know it all.

Regards hartly.

 

 

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