Strange find

[Jonjon79 13,358]

[ChrisJones 7,975]

9 minutes ago, scothunter said:

I honestly when first heard it was"Bollocks" but some believed it. 

His name was actually Hans Blix not bollocks. 

He concluded the justification was flawed. Joking aside I was in full conspiracy mode at that point, how wrong was I?!

[EDDIE B 3,166]

30 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

I'm not following. It was a terrorist attack and caused a catastrophic amount of damage and loss of life. It was then used by politicians as a justification for what is currently a 17-year long war in the middle east. Sure they made shit up as justification but it doesn't make the attack in New York any more than what it was.

Agreed but political corruption is no conspiracy, or fairy story either. In fact, there is a conspiracy in the White House at the minute complete with Russian operatives and a compromised president, but suddenly everyone is believing the official narrative. The Bush administration's justification for war is dubious at best but it doesn't change the evidence behind 9/11 and doesn't make it anything other than a horrific tragedy.

 What I'm trying to say is that the American government are capable of anything. If they are capable of blowing the shit out of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 then they are capable of destroying 3000+ lives for political gane. Whether they had a hand to play, or knew about it, and just left the door open to them to do their dirty deed. Either way, they have blood on their hands. One thing I have no doubt about. The American government don't give one f**k about their own people.

Edited March 3, 2018 by EDDIE B

[Dinosaurs 2,044]

How did bush see it on tv news at that school before it was broadcast?? The way those buildings collapsed was unreal? The testimonies of the fire & rescue services when interviewed while events were still Raw all said they heard multiple explosions??No physical evidence of third plane just a crater? As i said in earlier post dont think full truth will come out in my life time but its obviously not as clear cut as portrayed. Atb

[scothunter 12,609]

1 hour ago, ChrisJones said:

I'm not following. It was a terrorist attack and caused a catastrophic amount of damage and loss of life. It was then used by politicians as a justification for what is currently a 17-year long war in the middle east. Sure they made shit up as justification but it doesn't make the attack in New York any more than what it was.

Agreed but political corruption is no conspiracy, or fairy story either. In fact, there is a conspiracy in the White House at the minute complete with Russian operatives and a compromised president, but suddenly everyone is believing the official narrative. The Bush administration's justification for war is dubious at best but it doesn't change the evidence behind 9/11 and doesn't make it anything other than a horrific tragedy.

Brilliant comparison. 

[MickC 1,825]

A bit more about 911 and Larry Silverstein

http://www.garlicandgrass.org/issue8/Don_Paul.cfm

A lot of info to think over in this link !

Edited March 3, 2018 by MickC

[byron 1,169]

On 3/2/2018 at 16:31, scothunter said:

I assume you are referring to the Lusitania? Churchill did not order it's sinking! 

May not have gave it protection but even that wasn't deemed necessary. Maybe secretly was happy about it After the sinking but wasn't on his orders. 

There is also claims it was full of much needed arms for the British so sinking it was not in our interests.

Anyway the German U-boat commander who did sink it helped the survivors against the German fleets orders to not pick up survivors! In fact he risked being sunk himself by breaking radio silence telling the Brits where he cast them off. 

If you really want to point the finger at him.he can be blamed to a certain degree.for using a passenger ship to deliver weapons.as far as the Germans were considered it was a legitimate target. They warned America a good few times they would sink ships they knew were carrying contraband. Then I think the day before they said all ships were fair game. As Churchill was first lord of the admilarity he knew. 

Also it wasn't a yank ship it was British but mostly yank passengers.

they reckon we had the japanese codes brocken,,so churchill would have known all about pearl harbour..

[CushtyJook 1,097]

Come of it anyone in the works who thinks three buildings fall in near perfect formation to the ground crumbling everything to dustwithout help are brain dead first three buildings in history to fall due to fire and  they also fell in the same day and only two that where hit by a plane 

[ginger beard 4,652]

There the 1st to fall (if thats true) because there the 1st to be hit by a fully loaded with fuel jumbo jets.

what 3rd building.?

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,878]

I don’t know much about 9/11 or if what or how happened 

but I did witness the outlay first hand of United States citizens 

in 2008 , I spent part of my tour attached to cold steel support company, 24th MEU as a solitary Token Brit lol 

i met lads there with a zest and drive for life who sadly didn’t go  home on later tours. 

They died with, and were buried in red white and blue stripes . 

All to give nfl players the right to take a knee to support black lives matter . 

Never forget , freedom is seldom free. 

[scothunter 12,609]

But now nearly seven years after 9/11 the definitive official explanation of what happened to Tower Seven is finally about to be published in America.

The National Institute of Standards and Technology has spent more than two years investigating Tower Seven but lead investigator Dr Shyam Sunder rejects criticism that it has been slow.

 

The collapse of Tower 7

"We've been at this for a little over two years and doing a two or two and a half year investigation is not at all unusual. That's the same kind of time frame that takes place when we do aeroplane crash investigations, it takes a few years."

With no steel from Tower 7 to study, investigators have instead made four extremely complex computer models worked out to the finest detail. They're confident their approach can now provide the answers. Dr Sunder says the investigation is moving as fast as possible.

"It's a very complex problem. It requires a level of fidelity in the modelling and rigour in the analysis that has never been done before."

Other skyscrapers haven't fully collapsed before because of fire. But NIST argues that what happened on 9/11 was unique.

Steel structure weakened

It says Tower Seven had an unusual design, built over an electricity substation and a subway; there were many fires that burnt for hours; and crucially, fire fighters could not fight the fires in Tower 7, because they didn't have enough water and focused on saving lives.

Investigators have focused on the east side where the long floor spans were under most stress.

They think fires burnt long enough to weaken and break many of the connections that held the steel structure together.

Most susceptible were the thinner floor beams which required less fireproofing, and the connections between the beams and the columns. As they heated up the connections failed and the beams sagged and failed, investigators say.

The collapse of the first of the Twin Towers does not seem to have caused any serious damage to Tower Seven, but the second collapse of the 1,368ft (417m) North Tower threw debris at Tower Seven, just 350ft (106m) away.

Tower Seven came down at 5.21pm. Until now most of the photographs have been of the three sides of the building that did not show much obvious physical damage. Now new photos of the south side of the building, which crucially faced the North Tower, show that whole side damaged and engulfed in smoke

[socks 32,253]

Seven years after 9/11   It happened in 2001 ......

[CushtyJook 1,097]

14 minutes ago, ginger beard said:

There the 1st to fall (if thats true) because there the 1st to be hit by a fully loaded with fuel jumbo jets.

what 3rd building.?

Wtc 7 no plane hit 

 

lots if people are unaware of it 

 

They say it's bescuse of damage from the other two towers but there is other buildings closer and more damaged that never fell 

Edited March 3, 2018 by CushtyJook

[Ted Newgent 4,896]

And wasnt the 3rd tower empty as it was a government facility 

[scothunter 12,609]

It's an old article obv