when experienced terrier lads pass away.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Trouble with painillers either human or animal is that they mask problems that otherwise wouldn't be stressed or overlooked .

[Glyn..... 5,208]

A vet told me to never give pain killers to a dog with a working injury , as it masked the pain and made the dogs a lots less cautious, resulting in them banging  themselves or jumping about making injuries worst or making them heal slower 

[THE GENERAL 1,982]

1 hour ago, Glyn..... said:

A vet told me to never give pain killers to a dog with a working injury , as it masked the pain and made the dogs a lots less cautious, resulting in them banging  themselves or jumping about making injuries worst or making them heal slower 

Correct Glynn, yet in moderation with a trained eye makes a big difference, as you know. 

[Bryan 1,362]

11 hours ago, Glyn..... said:

A vet told me to never give pain killers to a dog with a working injury , as it masked the pain and made the dogs a lots less cautious, resulting in them banging  themselves or jumping about making injuries worst or making them heal slower 

Is your vet talking about Morphine or something?

Rimadyl or Metacam aren't that powerful that a dog is going to be unaware. But they will be more comfortable and reduced swelling will increase blood flow and speed up wound healing.

I wouldn't use it to get a lurcher back galloping sooner, but for terriers there's big benefits.

[Glyn..... 5,208]

10 minutes ago, Bryan said:

Is your vet talking about Morphine or something?

Rimadyl or Metacam aren't that powerful that a dog is going to be unaware. But they will be more comfortable and reduced swelling will increase blood flow and speed up wound healing.

I wouldn't use it to get a lurcher back galloping sooner, but for terriers there's big benefits.

just pain killers , his view was dogs don't know they have been given pain killers they know the pain has gone so instead of being careful with themselves they may damage themselves more because the injury is masked but still there , your doctor doesn't say take these pain killers and all  is fine he tell you steady up for a few days , vet may tell the dog that but it may not understand ,  

[Kerny92 1,246]

4 minutes ago, Glyn..... said:

just pain killers , his view was dogs don't know they have been given pain killers they know the pain has gone so instead of being careful with themselves they may damage themselves more because the injury is masked but still there , your doctor doesn't say take these pain killers and all  is fine he tell you steady up for a few days , vet may tell the dog that but it may not understand ,  

The same could be said for humans but that's not the case, if it aids comfort it's a no brainer IMO.

[fat man 4,741]

On 3/14/2018 at 19:13, Glyn..... said:

just pain killers , his view was dogs don't know they have been given pain killers they know the pain has gone so instead of being careful with themselves they may damage themselves more because the injury is masked but still there , your doctor doesn't say take these pain killers and all  is fine he tell you steady up for a few days , vet may tell the dog that but it may not understand ,  

In fairness Glyn its their head and face that 99% of the time take a little bit so its not as if their going to go around banging the their head of a wall or such. When a terrier takes a bit and its laid up and sore I can't see any harm in helping to comfort it a little using a mild pain killer jmho.

[Glyn..... 5,208]

each to there own i'll stay with what my vet has told me , i wont go against what he says as i could get done for not getting my terriers proper treatment from a vet , its a minefield 

[fat man 4,741]

On 3/14/2018 at 21:29, Glyn..... said:

each to there own i'll stay with what my vet has told me , i wont go against what he says as i could get done for not getting my terriers proper treatment from a vet , its a minefield 

Now Glyn no need to state the obvious as we all get proper treatment for our dogs when they need it but sometimes they don't always need vetenary attention and a good job too as them vets sure know how to charge.

[Bryan 1,362]

I go digging with my Vet. Reckons he learns as much if not more from old countrymen be it hounds, terriers,finchs,, greyhounds, burds etc. than was ever thought it University.

But he still has his uses and ain't bad on the shovel. Just Lazy

[Glyn..... 5,208]

23 hours ago, fat man said:

Now Glyn no need to state the obvious as we all get proper treatment for our dogs when they need it but sometimes they don't always need vetenary attention and a good job too as them vets sure know how to charge.

Fat man stating the obvious is what is done on forums, what is  obvious and common knowledge to many it isn't to newbi's many may not know that one of the easiest ways the rspca take peoples dogs is because they have not taken them to be treated by a vet 

[fat man 4,741]

On 3/15/2018 at 21:34, Glyn..... said:

Fat man stating the obvious is what is done on forums, what is  obvious and common knowledge to many it isn't to newbi's many may not know that one of the easiest ways the rspca take peoples dogs is because they have not taken them to be treated by a vet 

I agree with you Glyn but not only are you educating the terrier lads that are not in the know your also educating the antis as 90% of the c**ts have not a clue of the laws. That's what gets me on here and im not referring to you Glyn but the amount of lads that come on here asking stupid questions that 90% of the time are illegal on an open forum instead of just doing what they have to do and no one the wiser for it but instead they have to tell the world and draw unwanted attention upon themselves.

[howdeeposxxt 1,448]

Vet advised me that painkiller is a good thing once used sensible and this vet does some digging and uses painkillers but each to their own

[smasher 1,055]

I find Rimadyl  to be a good pain killer, and will lift a dog that’s felling it a bit ,but wouldn’t rate it much as an anti inflammatory,from  personal experience 

[Rebel 833]

I heard a man say that he thought that some dogs got broke on the bench.

It wasnt something that I had thought of before, but if it does happen, then maybe the use of pain killers when required might go some way to prevent it?