New BSA Defiant Bullpup

[lindleyjohn123 3]

What's everyone thinking? I think its interesting as its BSA first Bullpup.

Exited to hear everyone's opinions.

Saw it here: https://www.airrifleshop.co.uk/collections/bsa-air-rifles/products/bsa-defiant-walnut-new-2018?variant=6370173517851

[Rez 4,961]

It is indeed there first pup, suppose they've got to follow the crowd I suppose. Some marketing man at BSA would of said, "we need a pup...! Make it happen."

However. That trigger guard shape and install looks f'kin wank... Absolute 60 quid Bear Griles Gamo that is. Is it like that on the images I posted the other day?! Now Im seeing it like your sample there... Im not that sure.

Its like the back end has had some thought, then they go bored... and for a grand...  

[bigmac 97kt 13,792]

I SAY,D A GRAND DID I NOT

£1 UNDER

AND THE GRAY LAM WILL BE MORE

ITS NOT FOR ME SORRY

ATVBJIMMY

[philpot 4,998]

I met with the BSA rep today in the rfd, he was carrying a case with him. It took me ten seconds to ask if that was a Defiant, it was.

My first thought were that it was very heavy although slightly better in the shoulder, it doesn't sit anywhere near as nicely as the Wildcat in the shoulder, when carrying my Wildcats (when I had them) and my Impact, both simply hang down from the hand which makes them very comfortable to carry but the Defiant hangs almost upside down putting quite a strain on your wrist.

The rep said the shot count was 120 but they had 140 during testing so this could be a first when BSA produce a gun which actually has a higher shot count than they publish, it is usually the other way around.

One thing I did like was the cocking lever, perfect position, slightly longer movement but no issue and the mag position is well placed but I forgot to ask if it uses the same mag, pity he didn't have one with him so I could have popped into the range on site to try it out.

At a price of £1050, would I buy one, not a chance. They are trying to compete with the likes of FX Wildcat and others in the same family but to me this was not to be compared with rifles in that price range. I see Redbeck are discounting the gun already, hmmmm.

Phil

[raptar 48]

I did not like my bullpup. lol

[Rimfireboy! 1,463]

Looks like the wildcats ugly sister..

[lindleyjohn123 3]

Thanks for all your replies they have helped me a lot. I've just seen the laminate version and it has tempted me but not sure if its worth the money, as many of you have stated

 

https://www.airrifleshop.co.uk/collections/bsa-air-rifles/products/bsa-defiant-black-pepper-new-2018?variant=6409091481627

[bigmac 97kt 13,792]

28 minutes ago, lindleyjohn123 said:

Thanks for all your replies they have helped me a lot. I've just seen the laminate version and it has tempted me but not sure if its worth the money, as many of you have stated

 

https://www.airrifleshop.co.uk/collections/bsa-air-rifles/products/bsa-defiant-black-pepper-new-2018?variant=6409091481627

Keep your money

and

Buy a ultra se

one of the best bullpups out there lol

atvbjimmy

[Jonjon79 13,358]

I quite like how they look, especially in the laminate.

 

The thing is, I'd be worried about how much Gamo is in there.

Also, it's about £300 too heavy for me to seriously consider.

[mark williams 7,554]

A £1,000 buys a HW 100 of any format ( pretend bull pup ) and a decent scope.

                      I know where my grand would be heading.

[philpot 4,998]

You cannot knock the HW Mark but if a bullpup is the desired rifle, then an HW is no good at all despite it being an allstar.

 

Phil

[villaman 9,983]

54 minutes ago, philpot said:

You cannot knock the HW Mark but if a bullpup is the desired rifle, then an HW is no good at all despite it being an allstar.

 

Phil

Here you go Phil Bullpup HW100

http://www.airgunbuyer.com/Showproducts.asp?cat=Bullpup Kits&SubCat=Bullpup Conversion Kits

 

[just-A-snap 1,269]

Do I like the look if the BSA Defiant Bullpup?  No.  But then I do not like bullpup Rifles.  The looks of any Rifle are not that important for me, how it fits and how comfortable it feels is.  And if most was honest, I would say the end result of the pellet a the target end is the most important factor.  Do I wish BSA well and hope that the rifle is a success?  Hell yes, it is British jobs we are talking about.

In just my opinion that is.

All the very best for one and all 

[philpot 4,998]

2 hours ago, villaman said:

Here you go Phil Bullpup HW100

http://www.airgunbuyer.com/Showproducts.asp?cat=Bullpup Kits&SubCat=Bullpup Conversion Kits

 

I will say that if I could have the bottle conversion and something better than the flimsy bit of wire trigger extension, I could be tempted but the cocking lever / bolt is in a crazy position, like picking ear wax. It needs a dedicated design such as the ill fated BSA or far far better FX Wildcat / Impact which have a superb trigger system.

 

Phil 

[villaman 9,983]

3 minutes ago, philpot said:

I will say that if I could have the bottle conversion and something better than the flimsy bit of wire trigger extension, I could be tempted but the cocking lever / bolt is in a crazy position, like picking ear wax. It needs a dedicated design such as the ill fated BSA or far far better FX Wildcat / Impact which have a superb trigger system.

 

Phil 

I think HW conversion looks bloody awful  ,much prefer the new BSA but not at that price though