Aussie Whip 4,098 Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 47 minutes ago, delswal said: Why would I want less? I want 100% from any dog I work, it may not be as good as the next dog but at least I know the dog is doing it's best for me then in return I will do my best for the dog. Sound easy enough for you to follow? Just the subject is picking there runs and 100% sounds like a dumb ass dog running through fences to catch.I feel some hunters would cull a dog for using its bush sense and breed from a psycho speed machine,thus losing working ability and sense in their animals.I'm not talking coursing dogs but dogs that spend day in day out in rough country.They are giving 100% but in a smart way even when it looks like there jacking. 5 Quote Link to post
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Sirblessed 2,511 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 There is a lot left to interpretation, in the description of a dog picking it’s runs, and a big difference between jacking and cold quitting, I will say this much, I can call my dogs off a rabbit sitting 400 yards away on a burrow when they take off, but if it was closer to than 50, not a chance. Is that picking their runs? If it is I’m glad they do, or they would be dead from heat stroke or exhaustion, by mid day, literally running them self’s to death. An old saying. Wake up Australia, Tasmania is floating away! Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,434 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 a dog "picking" runs is it choosing not to run certain rabbits or pulling up because it "thinks" it can't catch them ffs, like wk said the dog doesn't always know best, a fence sitter on the lamp could be a easy catch, doesn't mean the dog is going to chase crisp packets in the day or run through razer wire because there's a rabbit sitting on a hedge two field away lol 1 Quote Link to post
mhopton 807 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 17 hours ago, cantona said: If a dogs still chasing bunnies that are sat next to there burrows or hedge after a couple of seasons it's not been worked enough Haaaa get real fella 2 Quote Link to post
cantona 310 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 5 hours ago, mhopton said: Haaaa get real fella In what way? Had running dogs 30 years , collie / grey, bed / grey, bull / grey, lurcher to lurcher, saluki / grey, all dogs have taken the lot excelled at stuff that there breeding was intended for but everyone of them were never stupid enough or inexperienced enough to chase after bunnies in the distance next to hedges or burrows, that's real fella? 4 1 Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,793 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, cantona said: In what way? Had running dogs 30 years , collie / grey, bed / grey, bull / grey, lurcher to lurcher, saluki / grey, all dogs have taken the lot excelled at stuff that there breeding was intended for but everyone of them were never stupid enough or inexperienced enough to chase after bunnies in the distance next to hedges or burrows, that's real fella? Yeah, right, never inexperienced enough?? How does that work? Born to Have experience? Cheers, D. 1 Quote Link to post
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cantona 310 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 8 hours ago, dytkos said: Yeah, right, never inexperienced enough?? How does that work? Born to Have experience? Cheers, D. Read original quote Quote Link to post
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Qbgrey 4,091 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 I got both here a heavy old dog,he will sit and watch the younger dog racing up time,time again.she does catch the odd one,but its very rare.its personnel choice we want a clever dog so to train it to a good standard,and then posts say i will choose what it runs and dont.it all depends on the dog,ground,country,quarry.i went out with a do called lurcher man once,he sent his collie,grey on every bloody rabbit,missed em all,my ole terriermans bullx,built like a tank with the turning circle of a bin lorry,trotted up to sitters and bang,5 in the bag.horses for courses. 1 Quote Link to post
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C.green 3,231 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 49 minutes ago, Qbgrey said: I got both here a heavy old dog,he will sit and watch the younger dog racing up time,time again.she does catch the odd one,but its very rare.its personnel choice we want a clever dog so to train it to a good standard,and then posts say i will choose what it runs and dont.it all depends on the dog,ground,country,quarry.i went out with a do called lurcher man once,he sent his collie,grey on every bloody rabbit,missed em all,my ole terriermans bullx,built like a tank with the turning circle of a bin lorry,trotted up to sitters and bang,5 in the bag.horses for courses. Training cleverness and running clever are two different things i think. I seen saluki coursing types who wont come back but run very clever cutting things off and pulling up at hedges. 2 Quote Link to post
NEWKID 27,158 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 On 28/02/2018 at 11:08, W. Katchum said: Bollocks, for starters pal who says it’s a no chance run? You? The dog? Nobody knows if it’s catchable until it’s been run, iv saw dogs refuse hedge sitters an then a more driven dog slip an a lot times rabbits will hop into hedge but other times they run along it, or away from it an it’s in bag after few turns, granted you don’t run pups on hedge sitters until they brimming with confidence, an for a fit dog another run is just that, another run an with many more in tank they don’t mind, but to slip a green dog in hedge sitters on nice nights is a million miles away from slipping a fit experienced mutt on a dark nights with wind howling, like I said it’s upto guy holding lead an lamp to get best from his dog? but like the men some dogs are also lacking or we would al have great animals??? Got to agree with that mate... good bit of wind in your face, those hedge sitters often make stupid mistakes and it's another in the bag... not for a novice dog but certainly an experienced mutt will account for quite a few around the hedge bottoms 2 Quote Link to post
NEWKID 27,158 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, C.green said: Training cleverness and running clever are two different things i think. I seen saluki coursing types who wont come back but run very clever cutting things off and pulling up at hedges. Nothing better than a dog that runs clever IMO... little bitch here has caught a lot of rabbits for me and rubs real clever, I'll send her on in the dark flick the beam on and she's up on em, will run out of the beam on the way out, and is great at boxing off the hedges... catches he'll of a lot in the hedge too... she makes up for her lack of size and top end speed by running clever... the big dog here on the other hand is all guts and glory... loads of pace runs everything like its her last run ever, stupid big killing machine lol... a mix of the 2 and you'd have a winner lol Edited March 2, 2018 by NEWKID 1 Quote Link to post
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