Alabama rot

[Glyn..... 5,208]

this could become dangerous if the fox population start getting it, so far i can't find any data on other mammals other than dogs catching it in the uk ,  maybe the posters from the USA can help out on this one any information you can add (with out it becoming a pissing match )  

and we as terriermen should have a quick look over all foxes killed and check if they have any skin lesions

at the movement the cases are building up across england and a few in wales, no cure and it seems dog get infected when muddy and wet 90% of cases during the winter and spring , this could be a f***ing nightmare, i just about remember pravo  first out breaks in the 70's and kennels of all breeds getting wiped out , at the moment only 132 cases from 2012  , 37 in 2017 but with a rise already in 2018 12 cases so far 

[Liamboy 1,266]

It's sounds a nasty disease with no apparent cure. Hopefully it doesn't take off over here

[rippem 455]

What are the symptoms? I haven't heard of this. Fox are getting to be less and less every year. I was gifted a real good Russell and he went in on a fox and got a scrape on top of his muzzle. Took him to the vet and they couldn't figure it out. Took him to specialist and they couldn't figure it out either. His top of his muzzle was slowly rotting off. Sad enough he had to be put down. So who knows if it came from the fox or the earth. Both can carry disease. That's why shots are Important. And the last couple years over here it seems like the ticks got worse also.

[rippem 455]

Just looked it up and holy shit that's what my dog had!! Unbelievable!! Seriously Glen, thanks for posting that or I would of never known! And it took you from another country to show it. Lmao thanks!! That means it's been around for a long time here and our piss government never announced it.

[rippem 455]

Yeah and I bet you knew about this didn't you. Wow,  I live here and never once have I heard of this! And obviously it's known about doesn't mean alot of folks know or heard about it. And if it's that known about katchum I think the specialist should of known don't You? I told them about the fox and how this started. So put the fire out buddy because I'm not pissing on it

[rippem 455]

That's what the speaclist said that it's some type of fungal disease. Had I'm on prednisone and some type of heavy cleaner and cream. It started to clear up and 1 morning I woke up and his top of his muzzle was REALLY BAD! Felt real bad for the little guy. Had to put him down. We think it was fungal and it mutated to pemfagus. Probably spelt that wrong. A skin eating disease. If I have any pics I'll post them

[Glyn..... 5,208]

main way in which it kills is  lesion in the kidney , and then kidney failure , and so far the cause is unknown which why they haven't found a way to cure it 

Edited February 15, 2018 by Glyn.....

[rippem 455]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/alabama-rot-disease-dogs-cause-treatment-diagnose-identify-vet-dr-fiona-macdonald-hampshire-new-a8172491.html

[Ted Newgent 4,896]

i have just posted up on a forum over here and asked the question.

i have to go to my local vets this coming week and i will ask them

[forest of dean redneck 11,599]

7 hours ago, W. Katchum said:

It’s been here a few years, was reported in forest a dean first or most I think, lots folk said it was scare mongering an that but recently it’s been all over Facebook an had spread, even up to the north have been several cases in darlo an Durham both only a few miles up road from me, sure I heard some where it’s fungal or summat to do with fungus but I don’t think anybody’s really knows what it is yet 

Na it started off in new forest about 3-4 years ago it seems to be mostly damp woodland there's been a few cases around Chepstow area ,a couple I think in forest of Dean .

[ollieollie 766]

There was a case in the last month where I walk my dogs, right near my house, very worrying 

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

2 dogs killed by it litterally a couple of miles from me both dogs from same household as well 

 

[greenshank1 407]

We had a suspect case just before Christmas in one of the woods I manage up here in Argyll , where a bull dog developed serious breathing issues out on the walk and was in a bad way on back to the car. 

It died shortly after returning home. Well it was all over Facebook , rumour mill in overdrive that it was Alabamha rot , poisoned due to forest operations or by a sicko etc etc.

Now our woods are wet and boggy most of the time so was beginning to wonder but no other dogs were effected.

I then found out there were two other dogs present , both unaffected and then heard the bull dog had been seen to jump about in cover and then return to the owner and almost immediately go down hill.

The owner wouldn't get an autopsy done , but I would put money on the cause was an adder bite rather than any fugal infection .

Wet damp days , adders are sluggish and can't move away so tend to coil up and defend themselves . 

I am not saying Alabamha rot isn't a serious concern but there are other things to consider.

 

 

[Glyn..... 5,208]

i prey it comes to nothing , all working dogs spend their time wet and muddy in the winter, but terriers tend  to get very muddy , my main concern is if the fox population gets it not only will our terriers be at greater risk  i also  wouldn't want to see the fox suffering with it 

[fat man 4,741]

On 2/15/2018 at 18:59, greenshank1 said:

We had a suspect case just before Christmas in one of the woods I manage up here in Argyll , where a bull dog developed serious breathing issues out on the walk and was in a bad way on back to the car. 

It died shortly after returning home. Well it was all over Facebook , rumour mill in overdrive that it was Alabamha rot , poisoned due to forest operations or by a sicko etc etc.

Now our woods are wet and boggy most of the time so was beginning to wonder but no other dogs were effected.

I then found out there were two other dogs present , both unaffected and then heard the bull dog had been seen to jump about in cover and then return to the owner and almost immediately go down hill.

The owner wouldn't get an autopsy done , but I would put money on the cause was an adder bite rather than any fugal infection .

Wet damp days , adders are sluggish and can't move away so tend to coil up and defend themselves . 

I am not saying Alabamha rot isn't a serious concern but there are other things to consider.

 

 

We have no wild snakes over here but plenty of 2 legged snakes that can crawl lower than a snakes belly.