scothunter 12,609 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 No I don't for one min think sporting guns should be banned. I'm happy with the gun laws we have and the checks we have in place. Understand what you are saying about its People. Hear it every time there a shooting over there.but aye it's the nutters ofc it is but the guns help and up the body count. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DanielG 286 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, delswal said: Guns are in the hands of the public albeit rifles and shotguns, ok that crack pot who shot the children at Dunblane used a hand gun and after that hand guns were banned. What if somebody decided they wanted to out and shoot folks the same damage could be done with a semi auto shotgun could it not? It's not the guns that are the problem it's the people with the guns. Should we ban all guns including sporting guns? Sensible people don't go around killing folk for fun, fcuking idiots do, if an idiot cannot get a gun a sword knife machete will do the job. But I will agree with you on one thing SH, I agree with the handgun ban no need for joe public to have a .357 .44 or 9mm in the house what if your hobby is pistol shooting ? how would you like it if your type of sport was banned the reason they dont want us to have guns is because they want the power and control if it was about our safety muslims would be banned 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Ted Newgent said: quoted for truth as for people not being able to have a handgun,why not? as long as you aint a nutter we should be able to have one. thats the problem with firearm holders,shotgun users say rifles are bad...some firearm owner dont agree with hunting with hounds on horseback we dont need to throw each other under the bus Apart from target shooting Ted what other reason would there be to have an handgun? Over here anyway. I have shot for more years than I can remember and I have never thought it was a good idea for pistols to be kept anywhere else except the range. Why would we in the uk need a pistol at home? unlike the states we can cannot defend ourseleves or property with hand guns, so no need for them to be kept at home or to be carried around. ATB........Del Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,067 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 amazing hes still alive.....mind you he is white..... 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 hours ago, DanielG said: what if your hobby is pistol shooting ? how would you like it if your type of sport was banned the reason they dont want us to have guns is because they want the power and control if it was about our safety muslims would be banned Lol cannot avoid them Muslims they pop up in every topic lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DanielG 286 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, delswal said: Lol cannot avoid them Muslims they pop up in every topic lol theres been more killings here from muslim terrorists than there has been from mass shooters with pistols 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ted Newgent 4,896 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, delswal said: Apart from target shooting Ted what other reason would there be to have an handgun? Over here anyway. I have shot for more years than I can remember and I have never thought it was a good idea for pistols to be kept anywhere else except the range. Why would we in the uk need a pistol at home? unlike the states we can cannot defend ourseleves or property with hand guns, so no need for them to be kept at home or to be carried around. ATB........Del target shooting,thats all.why not? there is people in the UK with 50cal rifles,why would anyone want one of those as you cant hunt with one.i am playing devils advocate with you. here in canada you cant hunt with pistols, only use is shooting holes in paper at a range. as for storing a handgun at home,why not? its your property.i wouldnt like to see a central storage of any type of firearm,magnet for criminals cheers pal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 hours ago, sandymere said: Another 17 + children killed when will they learn. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/the-states-with-the-most-gun-laws-see-the-fewest-gun-related-deaths/448044/ More guns = more killings. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3828709/ All the best states over on the right. Wyoming probably my favourite, Alaska, Idaho, Montana. I can show you similar data that would conclude the opposite. So much for your 'conclusion. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Notice how he understands the difference between causal and correlation relationships. Doubt many will watch it mind. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Go on, someone mention the Australia case study and how it proves gun bans work... Nobody mention actions and reform that would be deemed 'pro gun' designed to address these problems though. That's uncomfortable to talk about, no cherry picked data to oppose those lateral thinking remedial actions. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,685 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 5 hours ago, sandymere said: 6 camels ain't the same as 6 donkeys.. Actually, you are to blame........the society that folk of your political persuasion have fostered and encouraged, the barriers you broke down are directly responsible for those kids deaths imho The United States has always had guns and yet school kids were not wasting each other en masse in the 50s.......same as kids were not stabbing each other in London to the tune of eighty deaths a year in that era. In a world where every taboo is now a human right, where rappers who celebrate death, rape and robbery are made millionaires and looked upto as some kind of social commentator to be revered and respected, where drugs are no longer disgusting they are “an affliction” with the users to be shown pity, where buggery of minors is legalised and celebrated........what the f**k do any of us expect our young folk to behave like? Where are their boundaries ?.........where are their examples? Where all you have to aspire to, nay demand a right to, is to be Puff Daddy and have the latest phone.......when the university degree is completely meaningless because “everyone deserves to go to uni”........ What the f**k?........ban guns?........look out the f***ing window more like ! 6 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 796 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 i lived in the states for years. in the late eighties and early nineties there was an average of 2500 homicides a year in the 5 boroughs of nyc. americia is a violent society Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ted Newgent 4,896 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 ok here is trumps response to the mass shooting i managed just under 4mins of his schitt thoughts and prayers fix just about everything.................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,685 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, paul sr said: i lived in the states for years. in the late eighties and early nineties there was an average of 2500 homicides a year in the 5 boroughs of nyc. americia is a violent society And I beleive is now one of the lowest due in no small part to that zero tolerance policy of that mayor who’s name I don’t remember? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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