BGD 6,436 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, The one said: Talks cheap he promised all 16 year old heaps if they voted for him then changed there policies , its out taxes he planning to give away so tax rises for the workers to give the homeless free houses? but the time the next election comes in he will be 72 and in some home pissing himself in a chair He promised 16 year olds who can't vote loads of thing so they would vote for him? Not sure that makes any sense pal... What policies exactly did he change? 72 is only a year older than Trump and he's an incredibly healthy stable genius, hardly in some home pissing himself in a chair! Don't be so ageist Edited January 29, 2018 by BGD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,688 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, The one said: Talks cheap he promised all 16 year old heaps if they voted for him then changed there policies , its out taxes he planning to give away so tax rises for the workers to give the homeless free houses? but the time the next election comes in he will be 72 and in some home pissing himself in a chair Hello, im 73 and still in control of my bladder thank you very much, smash ya face in 1 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 4 hours ago, ChrisJones said: Where's the money coming from? As we speak he is on the phone to his magic money tree supplier! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, BGD said: He promised 16 year olds who can't vote loads of thing so they would vote for him? Not sure that makes any sense pal... What policies exactly did he change? 72 s only a year older than Trump and he's an incredibly healthy stable genius, hardly in some home pissing himself in a chair! Don't be so ageist The amount of tonguing you do round him I'll bet he's got the cleanest ring piece in parliament. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,845 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) In theory it's a good idea.....but in practice we don't have, and could never build enough houses to house the people we already have, never mind the ones corbyn wants to let in. The majority of people who are homeless are there because of numerous issues, drugs and alcohol being the main ones. Helping homeless people is difficult, support is there but they get one step on the ladder then two back.....its difficult and frustrating. You would also have thousands of migrants who don't speak English living in hostels and bnbs who would qualify. Iv worked (tried) in the accommodation of these people....even getting them to empty bins is a difficult and expensive process (translators). This isn't just a case of giving a home to homeless guy who will then be happy as Larry. It's an unachievable, expensive load of left wing rubbish that will cost us all dearly.....paid for on the tick, staffed and run by quangos. The whole thing being paid for by our kids in decades to come. And supported by those who simply want to make a statement to boost their own ego. Edited January 29, 2018 by DIDO.1 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) This is just my opinion again. For me this is not Left Wing or Right Wing Politics, it is about there for the grace of God go I. God forbid any one of us is stricken by any of the self inflicted or unavoidable things that most on the street face day in and day out. Not all have the mental strength to cope with a loss of a child as just one example. All the very best Edited January 29, 2018 by just-A-snap 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 No one is talking about just putting the homeless in homes and then saying job done, this is part of the Housing First model which has had success in other countries where you first house the homeless and then help them with access to support services etc to deal with underlying problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,845 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 minute ago, BGD said: No one is talking about just putting the homeless in homes and then saying job done, this is part of the Housing First model which has had success in other countries where you first house the homeless and then help them with access to support services etc to deal with underlying problems. Like I say, yeah in theory. But it just doesn't work like that. I have friends who have worked alongside the homeless, when I was going through a bad time, after splitting up with an ex, I was going to volunteer. But after hearing their stories it just wasn't happening. They would work on cases for weeks, finally get an appointment to view a flat and the homeless person wouldn't turn up, or they would view it once and go missing for the next two week. A good friend of mine, who was massively involved in that line of work said 'if you gave a hundred homeless people a house, a thousand pounds and a job interview.....within six months 99 would be at rock bottom again'. In cities like London it's immigration and immigrants high and irresponsible birth rate that is pushing housing to breaking point. Is corbyn going to push the price and availability of housing up for working class people to house people who will never work. And let's be honest we all know its going to be migrant families that will be front of the queue....because their need will be higher than your average homeless White guy. OK I'm all for it......lets make sure all these houses are in Scotland, the snp want more migration so let them have em. Also Ireland is in the EU, the EU are jointly responsible for our over population do they can have some as well. But overcrowded England, that it getting covered in concrete at a rate of knots.....no thanks. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: Like I say, yeah in theory. But it just doesn't work like that. I have friends who have worked alongside the homeless, when I was going through a bad time, after splitting up with an ex, I was going to volunteer. But after hearing their stories it just wasn't happening. They would work on cases for weeks, finally get an appointment to view a flat and the homeless person wouldn't turn up, or they would view it once and go missing for the next two week. A good friend of mine, who was massively involved in that line of work said 'if you gave a hundred homeless people a house, a thousand pounds and a job interview.....within six months 99 would be at rock bottom again'. In cities like London it's immigration and immigrants high and irresponsible birth rate that is pushing housing to breaking point. Is corbyn going to push the price and availability of housing up for working class people to house people who will never work. And let's be honest we all know its going to be migrant families that will be front of the queue....because their need will be higher than your average homeless White guy. OK I'm all for it......lets make sure all these houses are in Scotland, the snp want more migration so let them have em. Also Ireland is in the EU, the EU are jointly responsible for our over population do they can have some as well. But overcrowded England, that it getting covered in concrete at a rate of knots.....no thanks. Exactly, they fall at the first hurdle of getting housed because their lives are so chaotic while homeless so you get them housed and then focus on getting them in contact with support services and local agencies to get their life in order from a more stable base. It's worked elsewhere so why not in the UK? If you're against this what's your solution to the problem of rising homelessness? Because it's obvious something needs to be done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bushhound 50 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Bull the guys a prat and he could buy offer to buy me a house and I still wouldn't vote for him.i will never vote labour fact Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginger beard 4,652 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 We've got enough houses already we just have to many people. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,703 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I was at a event yesterday in Nottingham called beat the streets it was organized by framework basically it was a load of music gigs at different venues throughout the city ..it was absolutely heaving we had a fantastic time and some of the venues rock city included donated all the bar takings a great way to raise money and awareness of a worthy subject. ...or so i thought. .....turns out framework are under investigation for possible fiddling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I'm alright with additional housing. I'm not alright with public sector waste. The people that are in charge of allocating the resources aren't fit to allocate the resources. That £5bn figure would be fair but would anyone be surprised if it turned into several times that for half as many? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Put some humans in the same room with access to money and it is not surprising to get corruption Kenny. Just look at the House of Commons. Sad? Yes. Because of that do I forget my humanity? for me no. But that is just for me, and others will not see it that way, all part of living in a Democracy. All the very best mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,845 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, BGD said: Exactly, they fall at the first hurdle of getting housed because their lives are so chaotic while homeless so you get them housed and then focus on getting them in contact with support services and local agencies to get their life in order from a more stable base. It's worked elsewhere so why not in the UK? If you're against this what's your solution to the problem of rising homelessness? Because it's obvious something needs to be done. I'd house anyone who was homeless through mischance and situations beyond their control. I'd deport loads of migrants and I'd stick the rest in workhouses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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