Reminder of the wheaton x mentality

[Str 793]

34 minutes ago, Navek said:

f***ing hell mate that’s a pretty sensible reply for the hunting life lol I though you would of give it the whole “ f**k you you prick I’ll walk my dog where ever I want how ever I want “ lol 

think with any dog especially hunting dogs you always have to be vigilant of other dogs and walkers ..your always going get the “ oh he’s never done that befor “  and that may well be the case however....I’ve never been hit by a buss befor but I’d still be just as dead if I did lol 

Yes it was a good reply.

[Casso 1,261]

13 hours ago, sean09 said:

Out on the bike tonight running the dog a few miles and a mile into it theres a woman walking a little cockerspaniel type dog i keep cycling as my dog normally doesnt bother with other dogs but tonight he must have flicked a switch and next thing it was a whole drama with her screaming for me to get my dog off which only made things worse ffs. I eventually got my dog off and now i can only imagine the vet bill il recieve for the trouble.

Long story short wheaton xs are c**nts and it will only be fields for him from now on.

Still cant put together why he decided that tonight was time to rag a little dog around having never done it before.

Is that form of exercise different than he’s used too ?

 dogs contrast between different environments , inside the home is different than the mental space he goes into while outside , 

if he used to getting out and tearing shit up in the field which takes a huge physical burden off his shoulders and keeps him chilled 

then all he’s doing really is tearing shit up as usual ,

Outside is a frame of mind and with the Wheaton that means work 

get him on a tug item for ten minutes first , chill the f****r down , best of luck

[Casso 1,261]

If a dog is used to a certain workload when out , he has to brace himself for that driven frame of mind , which in turn means he stimulated for work so his body is primed for action, 

dogs with a large temperament , Wheaton,  bull breeds , sport dogs , dogs bred for up close and personal heavy work can need a more intense work out 

before I engage a dog in an activity , I look at the situation from his point , when has he worked last , is this a new experience for him , how can I control the situation , 

if I can answer these I know what to expect , it’s about management with driven dogs 

is the dog 2 half ish 

behavior just doesn’t happen out of the blue , it’s a process of building until it reaches tipping point,  the other mutt was in the wrong places at the wrong time , increase his work load , get him working a bite item , it’s a real stress buster in driven dogs 

Edited January 24, 2018 by Casso

[Aussie Whip 4,134]

Probably just took a disliking to that certain dog,I know I've met people that I wanted to punch at first sight.I would'nt trust any dog not leashed in a public place these days whatever the breed.

[billhardy 2,342]

13 hours ago, leegreen said:

Socialise socialise socialise and know your dog.   Saying that Wheatons are feckers, especially if they are from good stuff. Saying this from experience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lee green says it all ,socialisation ,but the good gear has this tendency hair pin trigger ,more so when they done nought fa a while,but there will be those on this thread that will no doubtdecry this ,the Wheaton adds lots of aggression fa killing stuff dogs can just be another quarry to some off them ,maybe the  little dog give off some body language and that's alls it takes at times .the run off the mill Lurcher only needs a wee bit a Wheaton r bull blood  makes fa a better animal all round.atb bunnys

[sean09 7]

1 hour ago, Casso said:

If a dog is used to a certain workload when out , he has to brace himself for that driven frame of mind , which in turn means he stimulated for work so his body is primed for action, 

dogs with a large temperament , Wheaton,  bull breeds , sport dogs , dogs bred for up close and personal heavy work can need a more intense work out 

before I engage a dog in an activity , I look at the situation from his point , when has he worked last , is this a new experience for him , how can I control the situation , 

if I can answer these I know what to expect , it’s about management with driven dogs 

is the dog 2 half ish 

behavior just doesn’t happen out of the blue , it’s a process of building until it reaches tipping point,  the other mutt was in the wrong places at the wrong time , increase his work load , get him working a bite item , it’s a real stress buster in driven dogs 

Your spot on mate on both your posts. 

I have only run him along side me on the bike a handfull of times recently but in an areawhere i walked him everyday as a pup untill about 15months. He is now 2 and half so again spot on with the age.

You seem very clued up on dog temperments. Interesting to read your point of view on how to look at it from the dogs perspective.

[Casso 1,261]

The dog is only processing the world through the ONLY way he can and that’s through a predator mindset , I don’t know way people can’t understand the implications of that , 

so when another dog is walking  on the other side of the road he can’t differentate between a dog out walking and something coming at him,

the only saving grace is that a dog is one of the most social animals on earth and if meetings were allowed to play out and this is the point,  the ritualistic behavior is what plicates the encounter , the sniffing pissing then smelling of urine , posing , it all works out the stimulation, a dog knows how to do this , he can mold himself to fit into a social setting 

you don’t have to show a dog how to be social, 

i don’t try to expose the pup to a world that will trigger his instincts over and over at a vulnerable age , people are f***ing frying the pups emotional system, he’s going out into what feels like a war zone of movement and stimulation, every encounter is an emotional input and for every input there must be an output but on lead walk there ain’t , it’s stimulation overload  ,that builds until the right moment

he just flipped one day , is the phrase most commonly heard in dog Dom 

question socialisation , we didn’t socialise 30 years ago, work and back into shed , dogs were bulletproof , take them anywhere , but now  we have to show them everywhere before their 4 months old ,and every f****n expert in the world is just nodding their heads in argreement , like sheep 

put it this way every dog in shelters today as is the latest fad was socialised , so what happened  , why isn’t it a cure ? How are some of them so f****d up 

not aimed at you bud just a general rant

Their is a massive difference between taking a pup out nice and quiet, handfeeding in the field and developing a real focused bond through the only attachment it has at that age , it’s gut , it can ONLY tune into you if the environment will let it 

and dragging it around streets where you make it physically impossible to focus on you and throwing every unmanaged situation thrown at it    Triggering instinctive responses in pups lead to triggering instinctive responses in adult ,it’s all a learned behaviour,  

you don’t need a dog bogged down with all that emotional baggage

 

 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2018 by Casso

[bird 9,969]

On 1/24/2018 at 12:16, billhardy said:

Lee green says it all ,socialisation ,but the good gear has this tendency hair pin trigger ,more so when they done nought fa a while,but there will be those on this thread that will no doubtdecry this ,the Wheaton adds lots of aggression fa killing stuff dogs can just be another quarry to some off them ,maybe the  little dog give off some body language and that's alls it takes at times .the run off the mill Lurcher only needs a wee bit a Wheaton r bull blood  makes fa a better animal all round.atb bunnys

the bottom line it comes down , 1st each dog, 2nd the breed  deff, nothing to do with hunting   prey drive   call it what ever you want. just look at hounds, not over socialised   like say your pet in the park, you meet, they live in big kennel, 20 odd of them, they norm only mix with other hounds, yet at shows game fairs  etc, they see lots of other dogs there they dont try to kill every little dog they see, another greyhounds , now i do know about these dogs, as  i worked at racing kennels for  6 months     used to handle them a lot feeding walking, ok in the racing kennels Yes they prob try  kill each other  if left out on there own , we had to walk 4 at a time, and even though all dogs knew each other  every day you had to be very careful     with them they kick off very quick, and greyhound do alot  of damage very quick    . But take them away from racing kennels  and  bring them up slowly and steady with other dogs   in 6 months or so  they ok round other dogs, and anyway they have to be muzzled  when out and norm kept on a lead , but ive lot ex racers  make great pets and ok with other dogs  , bloody hell my big dog Buck would kill a fox , cat, an loads of stuff in  4 1/2 years  working , but he dont pile in to a dog for no reason, he got a good temp good with people and dogs, ive always said on here if was nasty he fookin  nightmare to take out, with his size power. Its just the breeds, wheaten, irish, kerry blue , and few airedales , few jacks   all have that sharpness  in them  with other dogs , it just there nature  simple as that, i had 3 bull x greys all ok with other dogs, our pit bitch was ok with dogs if they were ok with  her, it not so much hunting , it just the temp of certain  breeds .

[Wales1234 5,546]

My old bullx bitch attacked 3 dogs in all the years I had her one was chasing her daughter and she piled in a big German sherpard thing the owner apologised! Second was a sheep dog in a woods that came steaming at me and sheepchaser on her she was f****d at the time from a long days hunting She came out of no where ! And the last time was a big staff dog that was attacking me otherwise from that she was laid back as shit would even sleep next To a dig till you called her

[Guest edrd]

Some should be in brodmooor ?

Edited January 25, 2018 by edrd

[dogmandont 9,876]

1 hour ago, edrd said:

Some should be in brodmooor ?

As well as there owners. Lol. 

[Guest edrd]

Wild bill Suffolk reminds me of a story in the mag ? made us all laugh ??

Edited January 27, 2018 by edrd

[dogmandont 9,876]

It's not the mentality of the Wheaton cross that caused this to happen it was the mentality of the owner. What if some kids cat ran out in front this dog and it chased it into its garden and stretched it in front of the kid?  All the socialising in the would wouldn't of stopped that. Yip accidents happen but a hell of a lot of them are easily avoided. I find it funny when people blame a certain breed for (their)mistakes. When bulldogs where only kept by bulldog fanciers how many people were killed by them? Only when the idiots got hold of them did it start to happen. Don't blame the breed blame the person on the end of the lead are in this case not on the end of the lead.

[peterhunter86 8,627]

7 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

It's not the mentality of the Wheaton cross that caused this to happen it was the mentality of the owner. What if some kids cat ran out in front this dog and it chased it into its garden and stretched it in front of the kid?  All the socialising in the would wouldn't of stopped that. Yip accidents happen but a hell of a lot of them are easily avoided. I find it funny when people blame a certain breed for (their)mistakes. When bulldogs where only kept by bulldog fanciers how many people were killed by them? Only when the idiots got hold of them did it start to happen. Don't blame the breed blame the person on the end of the lead are in this case not on the end of the lead.

Parent's should teach their kids to keep their cat's indoors lol.

[Shovel shy 4,033]

Ive a wheaton x lurcher.he hasn't attacked dogs if theres collie in him somewhere will that mean hes gona herd sheep aswell?? Working dogs are gona b highly strung.keep em on a lead no matter what