Welsh_red 4,628 Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, arcticgun said: Got jabbed with it once fir cracked ribs n handed box to go , nearly git ran over outside the hospital hit me like a train , bad stuff never touched it since My Mrs got given loads and loads of tramadol once and was told to be carefull as they were addictive . She hardly took any they were to stong for her . I had a few and Tbh their not something I'd like to take regular 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,469 Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: My Mrs got given loads and loads of tramadol once and was told to be carefull as they were addictive . She hardly took any they were to stong for her . I had a few and Tbh their not something I'd like to take regular I have them for my kidney stone pain and to be honest there the only thing other than morphine that work but if I have to have a few they leave me feeling dirty and the nightmares have already been mentioned but anything is better than renal colic. ..I only use them if its bad which iisnt often now days FF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,469 Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said: I had an op a while back and they send me on my way with dihydracodine told me to just keep getting a repeat prescription as I need them no need to see doctor or surgeon . Just a phone call. Was great. Tried it I couldn't crap for a month lol and it didn't take the colic pain of Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, kanny said: I have them for my kidney stone pain and to be honest there the only thing other than morphine that work but if I have to have a few they leave me feeling dirty and the nightmares have already been mentioned but anything is better than renal colic. ..I only use them if its bad which iisnt often now days FF A year or so ago, I busted my back really badly - could nearly walk, couldn't sleep, unbearable at times. One night, I pinched a couple of the good lady's Trammies - never again ! Horrible nightmares/hallucinations and the most dreadful hangover the next morning. How anyone takes them regular is beyond me. Bloody things are deadly ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,469 Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Blackbriar said: A year or so ago, I busted my back really badly - could nearly walk, couldn't sleep, unbearable at times. One night, I pinched a couple of the good lady's Trammies - never again ! Horrible nightmares/hallucinations and the most dreadful hangover the next morning. How anyone takes them regular is beyond me. Bloody things are deadly ! The more regular you take them the more you adjust to them but there not the kind of thing you want to be living on so it's a catch 22..... there the most lucid out of body dreams I've ever had on trams occasionally fun but more often not lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, kanny said: The more regular you take them the more you adjust to them but there not the kind of thing you want to be living on so it's a catch 22..... there the most lucid out of body dreams I've ever had on trams occasionally fun but more often not lol She just has them when needed now, but she had a spell of taking them for 5 or 6 months solid. She never really got used to the side effects........and she was usually in a monumentally foul mood ! In fairness, all her medication has been pretty heavyweight stuff, but for everything she's ever taken, the side effects usually outweigh any slim benefits ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 45 minutes ago, Blackbriar said: She just has them when needed now, but she had a spell of taking them for 5 or 6 months solid. She never really got used to the side effects........and she was usually in a monumentally foul mood ! In fairness, all her medication has been pretty heavyweight stuff, but for everything she's ever taken, the side effects usually outweigh any slim benefits ! what she needs then is something that gives plenty of benefits with positive side effects , think a lot of synthetics medication is copied from mother natures many greats, but fails to be what the original is , 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I broke my knee cap in half in 2002 still have the pins and wire in There. I have been prescribed co codomol 500/30 since 2002 I get 100every 2weeks. No questions asked and have been told "no need to come in and see us"! The times i have went in to see a Dr when it gets unbearable I was given diclofenic and tramadol never again horrible drugs. When I said I didn't Iike them was given the codomol again. Which is an opiate so I'd say I'm pretty much hooked on them. Ironic I have avoided hard drugs all my life except weed but never a pill or powder.and now drs and the system has me taking prescribed opiates long term. When any idiot knows pain killer's are meant to be a short term fix not years and years! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, scothunter said: I broke my knee cap in half in 2002 still have the pins and wire in There. I have been prescribed co codomol 500/30 since 2002 I get 100every 2weeks. No questions asked and have been told "no need to come in and see us"! The times i have went in to see a Dr when it gets unbearable I was given diclofenic and tramadol never again horrible drugs. When I said I didn't Iike them was given the codomol again. Which is an opiate so I'd say I'm pretty much hooked on them. Ironic I have avoided hard drugs all my life except weed but never a pill or powder.and now drs and the system has me taking prescribed opiates long term. When any idiot knows pain killer's are meant to be a short term fix not years and years! you could make half your weed into medicine to help your ailments and get shot of the fake junior NHS smack painkiller, weed has a lot more too offer than the high from smoking, although that's medicinal in itself too, with all the information floating about these days I'm surprised as many people have the morals too stick too what they are told by ze law, bearing in mind that the very smae people forbidding you proper natural effective medication that could prevent in the first instance many common ailments long before they start to cause erosion of your body allowing the big guns illness wise and stressful modern life to finish you off, all the while consuming thousands of pounds worth of official drugs that clearly don't quite have the impact you desire, but they do have the impact the pharmaceutical companies want ie further dependencies on products that get more expensive as your need/reliance grows, most of which are direct and indirect copies of banned substances, these companies fund whichever government in power to keep the lock on this highly lucrative market, large political cash donations and promises of directorships when they retire, oh and a good aunt of shares to increase their wealth and power, now my guess is that most of these types f people get private medication and can go abroad for treatment and Id well wager they do Id rather make my own mind up what I put into my body, as it belongs to me and always has, nobody has the right to allow people to suffer not for money and mass profit and that's simply what its all been about the banning of weed and many other drugs, suffering and misery , so that the few can reap huge rewards , the very fact its becoming legal after a handful of hippies worldwide have staunchly defended it to the hilt simply because they too the time too realise they where being lied to , mind to be fair it took a lot more people than a few hippies too change things people of all levels contributed to the freedoms we are now gaining, so you ca forget the law they have no moral ground the game was up when they allowed GW Pharmaceuticals a licience to grow such a 'deadly drug' on its soil, how they can still drag there feet after the yankee paymasters have rolled over and held there greedy hands out for the extra revenue, but we English its easier to pretent you where right and make people suffer whilst you sort out the many problems you have created first f**k the people lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 12 hours ago, Meece said: I knew a woman who was a strong fearless 3 day horse rider, a clever technician and a really nice person who developed MS and she used the real stuff. She put it Into chocolate cornflake cakes. 2 grns a day. Weighed out on a set of powder scales. Any less and it didn't do any good and more made her her fly at 40 k ft. She used to get it from a local lad. To me it looked like a hare turd. It had a odd smell a bit like hops. It worked very well for some time but its effect seem to wear off and she got cancer which fixed her. A real shame. its not the miracle some think , most suffering try it far to late, there systems are dry of it and never really stood a chance, prior to the ban people had tinctures or weed and ingested as when they saw fit and it helps to ingest micro amounts which don't really affect you high wise daily to help maintain a clean system, but as said most come running when they real ill and already under failing treatment regimes, they then need RSO type extract high potency and they take the real small grain micro doses which can make people feel hih cos of the sheer strength of preparation, but even too much and the side effects are positive, you simply drink a glass of pop too ward off the impending whitey and sleep through the heavier high, remember quality sleep s essential to recovering , increased appetite or muchies another downside effect but again its a positive most diseases effect appetite in a negative manner so increasing appetite is positive as good food wll also aid recovery, to be honest the simple removing of daily stress is likely the single most positive effect one could want as I belive stress is the single biggest killer these days , opens the doors to a whole lot worse imho I think they can and have ran all the clinical trials they possibly could in private companies universities and even growers themselves and the most honest and useful information has come from the growers and people whom have taken the leap of faith and tried the products when they needed too, I know whose feedback Id rely on , cause the pharmaceutical companies etc are hardly honest decent people wanting to help you are they now ? to be honest I think every person being an individual and suffering different levels if stress and ilnesss that there will never be a perfect preparation to suit each individual I think it more a case of being able to dose yourself with advice of others in the know trial ad error, tolerances are hugely different, lot of heavy cannabis smoker sdevelop COPD and want to come off the weed heavy habits oxz a week and they surprised how few caps they actually consume once they used to affects being different , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,487 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, scothunter said: I broke my knee cap in half in 2002 still have the pins and wire in There. I have been prescribed co codomol 500/30 since 2002 I get 100every 2weeks. No questions asked and have been told "no need to come in and see us"! The times i have went in to see a Dr when it gets unbearable I was given diclofenic and tramadol never again horrible drugs. When I said I didn't Iike them was given the codomol again. Which is an opiate so I'd say I'm pretty much hooked on them. Ironic I have avoided hard drugs all my life except weed but never a pill or powder.and now drs and the system has me taking prescribed opiates long term. When any idiot knows pain killer's are meant to be a short term fix not years and years! You ever tried coming off them mate reason I ask is ive been on a repeat prescription of these for years due to painfull sciatica and artheritus and to be honest I don't think I could get through the working week without them though tbh some days I can get by on just taking four other days I will drop eight of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 id be looking at what the long term effects of consuming them would be in first instance, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: You ever tried coming off them mate reason I ask is ive beeexplainrepeat prescription of these for y ears due to painfull sciatica and artheritus and to be honest I don't think I could get through the working week without them though tbh some days I can get by on just taking four other days I will drop eight of them. Yea A few Times mate and the pain i my knee is excrutiating. I then make an appointment to see the dr Explain the situation . They try and get me to take other stronger ones. Which i decline. I have seen various drs over the years and its the same answer. In fact one dr Actually said "well if you arent going to take the medication then suffer it". Could have punched the c**t. I also get the "youre to young for knee replacement". Was referred to the hospital specialist xrayed and weeks later i had to ask what the results were. "Oh its not healed how they would like but its not to bad! Then I get its just the age of you to. Arthritis sets in. Really! You said i was to young for knee replacement but age isnt an issue now lol l 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,487 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, scothunter said: Yea A few Times mate and the pain i my knee is excrutiating. I then make an appointment to see the dr Explain the situation . They try and get me to take other stronger ones. Which i decline. I have seen various drs over the years and its the same answer. In fact one dr Actually said "well if you arent going to take the medication then suffer it". Could have punched the c**t. I also get the "youre to young for knee replacement". Was referred to the hospital specialist xrayed and weeks later i had to ask what the results were. "Oh its not healed how they would like but its not to bad! Then I get its just the age of you to. Arthritis sets in. Really! You said i was to young for knee replacement but age isnt an issue now lol l Same problem here mate too young for an hip replacement but been told I will need one at a later date and the doctor told me to up my dosage of solpadol rather than suffer the pain. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Was prescribed codeine for a shoulder injury...boxes of 100 at a time. Ended up dependant on them...even when my shoulder was fine I was still taking them for that little euphoric buzz...the worst thing is I was getting 100 tablets every 8 - 10 days and the doctors just kept writing the prescription with no questions asked...it finally took a senior doctor to catch on and get me a bit of help to come off them...opioids will f**k you up and docs are prescribing them far too easily these days 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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