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21 minutes ago, rob284 said:

Why?

Come on Rob, I think you know the answer to that one.

It even kills me to have a collar on them for a dig but there's no other modern day alternative. Even the most inexperienced of terriers might be curious enough to go 6 or 7 foot into a hole and get hung up. At least with a finder you'd find it but with a collar on it for no other reason other than the owner was too lazy to undo it could cause the suffering or death of a terrier. Maybe I'm wrong but IMO it's common sense.

Another bit of common sense is that if bushing was your thing a collar on a dog WILL hinder it in thick cover. 

Have you ever seen someone rough shooting over Spaniels that were wearing collars ? I haven't and Spaniels rarely go to ground.

Don't be lazy and undo that collar.

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42 minutes ago, neil cooney said:

Come on Rob, I think you know the answer to that one.

It even kills me to have a collar on them for a dig but there's no other modern day alternative. Even the most inexperienced of terriers might be curious enough to go 6 or 7 foot into a hole and get hung up. At least with a finder you'd find it but with a collar on it for no other reason other than the owner was too lazy to undo it could cause the suffering or death of a terrier. Maybe I'm wrong but IMO it's common sense.

Another bit of common sense is that if bushing was your thing a collar on a dog WILL hinder it in thick cover. 

Have you ever seen someone rough shooting over Spaniels that were wearing collars ? I haven't and Spaniels rarely go to ground.

Don't be lazy and undo that collar.

Different people have different ways. I wouldnt let my dog bush as i have no interest in it and can result in losing a dog to ground in unknown places. I dont shoot, so the spaniels are foreign to me. When my dogs are off theyre just trotting around in my vicinity. And i have had a locator collar tangle on a root to ground, problem was the dog broke it and i dug down to just a collar, then had to get the bar out. Like you said its common sense, and in some situations a dog without a collar can be a dead dog.

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Yep, Rob the place you've exercised terriers 100 times a year without incident will some day have a fox in a shitty little rabbit burrow you didn't know was there and then you're in trouble. Sticking finding collars on terriers for exercise is not practical and most of us once or twice a year have to get the shovel and bar and look for one who's gone to ground, or in my case, a half a dozen times a year. So IMO by leaving a collar on them you're adding to the risk our terriers have.

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