Jonjon79 13,358 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 This one really boils my piss.......... I was just listening to a piece on the radio in the car about how the NHS is over stretched at this time of year - apparently the first week in January is their busiest time. Cue the posh bint ......... They do a telephone interview with what sounds like some middle aged lah-de-dah. She was saying that her husband was taken ill recently and, complaining that she had to wait for over an hour for an ambulance to come from Chipenham to Swindon. She said they got to the hospital at 7pm, moaned about not seeing a nurse until 10:30pm and (this is the best bit), saw a specialist at 4:30am "by which time he was feeling much better". ......... Complete pair of tossers There was obviously f**k all wrong with him that a paracetamol, a good nights kip and a large dose of man-the-f**k-up wouldn't have sorted. They tied up an ambulance from another town, a hospital bed, wasted the time of a nurse and a specialist for sod all. They should have been given a bill and an open hand slap across the face. Fingers crossed that no one seriously suffered in Chipenham that night through lack of an ambulance eh 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Read something similar this morning https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/29/were-not-the-national-hangover-service-nhs-boss-warns-revellers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,352 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 49 minutes ago, dave88 said: Read something similar this morning https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/29/were-not-the-national-hangover-service-nhs-boss-warns-revellers Saw some health expert on TV yesterday saying alcohol is the biggest drug in this country,newcastle Bristol Cardiff and Manchester have drunk-tanks for patients to dry out,plans for more around the country,what a waste of cash. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,619 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 The state the NHS is in drunks and druggys should be the least of their prioritys imo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,473 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Drunk tanks, sounds like oversized home brew barrels strategically placed around the towns and cities Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 The idea of "the NHS", as most of us think of it, is gone, and the long term future is bleak, for 'free' healthcare, I feel. We have individual entities - foundation trusts - operating on an independent basis. Around 1/3 of treatment services are now provided by private companies, who have also monopolised catering, cleaning and security. A lot of trusts are financially crippled by private finance initiatives, something else to blame Blair for, and find themselves on the brink of bankruptcy...........how can a publicly-funded hospital be millions of pounds in debt ???? I think there are too many people who use A&E like a drop-in GP surgery.........some do this because they can't see a GP anytime in the next fortnight..........so they go to a hospital........... where there are are too many chiefs, and not enough Indians - and I'm not setting up a punchline, there - thanks to constant political interfering and 'reforms'. I don't think the NHS has A problem, rather a series of smaller, unconnected problems, across all its services, accumulated over decades of mismanagement, that have given us perfect storm, we have today. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bell 3,598 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 i took a good friend to A&E 2 days before Christmas. He wasn't right, slurring his words etc, thought he'd had a mini stroke. Did a CT scan and found a tumour on his brain. OK, its bad and I wouldn't want it in my head but we can deal with it. Fast forward to following morning, having seen 3 different doctors none of whom had been told what meds he was on (even though each one had written it down). So I go in to pick him up as he was being discharged with a follow up appointment, and just as we are about to leave another doctor appears and declares 'as you know you have primary lung cancer with secondary lesions on the brain'............errr No we didn't fecking know thank you very much !!!!!!! Merry Christmas..........it was brutal, unprofessional and the whole experience deomonstrated that there was no communication/continuity throughout. You can keep the NHS. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollieollie 766 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 NHS, roads, schools, education, benefits system and many others are sinking Too many people 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,352 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, bell said: i took a good friend to A&E 2 days before Christmas. He wasn't right, slurring his words etc, thought he'd had a mini stroke. Did a CT scan and found a tumour on his brain. OK, its bad and I wouldn't want it in my head but we can deal with it. Fast forward to following morning, having seen 3 different doctors none of whom had been told what meds he was on (even though each one had written it down). So I go in to pick him up as he was being discharged with a follow up appointment, and just as we are about to leave another doctor appears and declares 'as you know you have primary lung cancer with secondary lesions on the brain'............errr No we didn't fecking know thank you very much !!!!!!! Merry Christmas..........it was brutal, unprofessional and the whole experience deomonstrated that there was no communication/continuity throughout. You can keep the NHS. They aren't all like that mate,i have known people in countries where every single thing has to be paid for,each headache tablet,sticking-plaster and stroke of a pen,you mightn't believe it and I know its raw (I have lost someone through lung cancer,started as breast and spread) but we are very fortunate in this country with the NHS hence the number of NHS tourists who come here to avail of the facilities we have,we are stretched however,but still better than the alternative,some countries you don't get into a hospital door without showing you have funds to cover treatment. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, ollieollie said: NHS, roads, schools, education, benefits system and many others are sinking Too many people We all want them.........but nobody wants to pay for them ! Successive governments pride themselves on taking more and more people out of income tax, and we're increasingly indoctrinated that public spending must be cut -"balance the books", "live within our means" etc etc..........so where does the money come from ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trigger2 3,143 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, bell said: i took a good friend to A&E 2 days before Christmas. He wasn't right, slurring his words etc, thought he'd had a mini stroke. Did a CT scan and found a tumour on his brain. OK, its bad and I wouldn't want it in my head but we can deal with it. Fast forward to following morning, having seen 3 different doctors none of whom had been told what meds he was on (even though each one had written it down). So I go in to pick him up as he was being discharged with a follow up appointment, and just as we are about to leave another doctor appears and declares 'as you know you have primary lung cancer with secondary lesions on the brain'............errr No we didn't fecking know thank you very much !!!!!!! Merry Christmas..........it was brutal, unprofessional and the whole experience deomonstrated that there was no communication/continuity throughout. You can keep the NHS. sorry to hear that mate. personally i think the NHS do a bloody great job with the tools provided. i spent a couple of months in hospital and couldnt believe how some of the staff were treated/spoken to by patients. its a hard job to be doing. i will also say that if i had listened to the doctors at my local hospital i would have been dead within 36hours so i know what it like to be on the not good side of there work, but once the problem was found i was sorted and sorted well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollieollie 766 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Blackbriar said: We all want them.........but nobody wants to pay for them ! Successive governments pride themselves on taking more and more people out of income tax, and we're increasingly indoctrinated that public spending must be cut -"balance the books", "live within our means" etc etc..........so where does the money come from ? I agree, I’m pragmatic about it, I also pay my way. As you say living within your means is how it should be but it’s not a mantra people live by now. People expect a good life now without having to work for it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollieollie 766 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 It all costs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J_Edwards 70 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 In my opinion self-diagnosis websites are a terrible influence. They blow everything completely out of proportion. Put in the symptoms of a cough and cold, and combined with confirmation bias people think they've got Ebola. I think they call it "Cyberchondria" Then the idiots go rushing to the doctors or A&E, "just to be safe". Especially when kids are involved. I know a lot of doctors and nurses, and you literally couldn't make some of those stories up. A paramedic told me that a lot of people check their kids' symptoms online, and then call the ambulance saying they've got "a potential case" of something". The ambulance crew just can't tell them to man-up, they have to go in all lights and sirens blazing. It turns out to be something trivial that the precious mummy and daddy googled and took the worst possible scenario. Such as waste of time, effort, money and resources. A particularly hilarious one was a woman in our village took her baby grandson to A&E because her cat was found sleeping in the baby's crib. Nowhere near the baby, just on the edge of the crib. She rushed him to A&E to be checked for "possible suffocation", Cat Scratch Fever, lice, worms, the lot. Mollycoddling to the extreme. The cat was banned from the house from then on, even though the poor thing was house cat. Couldn't make it up. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,542 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 I owe a fair bit to the NHS but even I have come to the conclusion that working people should be offered income tax cut and allowed to go the private route via insurance... Obviously there still needs to be protection for societies most vulnerable... There's no getting away from the fact that a truly private system would be the most efficient way for health system to run but like most people I couldn't afford a private insurance without a tax cut to balance it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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