Dog aggression

[Welsh_red 4,651]

I had a half choker for my dog and like yours he didn't give a shit about choking himself . 

I got a halti nose harness for him and he stopped pulling and I had uch more control over him . He'll hate the harness for a day or so but don't give in and take it off.  First time I went out with it we pretty much spent the whole time arguing with eachother until he accepted he had to wear it 

[Black neck 16,017]

Has the dog ever tucked in to another dog when loose off the lead

[mushroom 13,086]

8 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

I had a half choker for my dog and like yours he didn't give a shit about choking himself . 

I got a halti nose harness for him and he stopped pulling and I had uch more control over him . He'll hate the harness for a day or so but don't give in and take it off.  First time I went out with it we pretty much spent the whole time arguing with eachother until he accepted he had to wear it 

Kinky fuucker ?

[Welsh_red 4,651]

3 minutes ago, mushroom said:

Kinky fuucker ?

You don't know the half of it pal  

[terryd 8,490]

hope you taught it the safe word

[walshie 2,804]

Aren't they non-Jewish people?

[mushroom 13,086]

7 minutes ago, walshie said:

Aren't they non-Jewish people?

Come again

[walshie 2,804]

1 minute ago, mushroom said:

Come again

Gentiles.

[mushroom 13,086]

Just now, walshie said:

Gentiles.

Who said that? ?

[Welsh_red 4,651]

28 minutes ago, terryd said:

hope you taught it the safe word

Safe word is "get the f**k off my leg"

[mushroom 13,086]

4 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

Safe word is "get the f**k off my leg"

That's hard to say when ya gagged and choked up ?

[Fidolove 4]

2 hours ago, terryd said:

You might find a slip lead more subtle and you can take the wind out of his sails the second he thinks about it until he relaxes then slacken.Keep it nice and short just a foot or two assuming you have taught him not too pull. I wouldn't be tying him up out side shops either regardless

I use a half choker, would a slip lead be more effective? I keep him right up close but he'll still go mental and choke himself til it passes. He's amazing on the lead until another dog comes into sight.

2 hours ago, Caravan Monster said:

I've employed  Jim Greenwood when I was struggling with mine and his help was invaluable. I recently saw a friends large bedlington / greyhound that was dog aggressive come good, so it is possible.

Thank you, I'll give some of the suggestions here a go and if there's still no joy I'll see about calling in some pro help. Cheers!

2 hours ago, mushroom said:

Ok, I've read my old training manuals....

Get a big sheet of metal, lie it on bricks so that it doesn't earth. Put a fence or some barrier around it so the dog cannot escape. Attach the sheet to the mains with jump cables (make sure you have a breaker on the wire) put the dog in there.

Next enlist the assistance of someone with a dog. Bring the dog into play on the opp side of the fence. When your dog gets aggressive, flip the switch! 

You're welcome

Problem solved. Permanently ?

[Fidolove 4]

3 hours ago, blackmaggie said:

It nothing to do with hunting instinct has I have more bother with fat labs and them shit your poos or whatever there called on walks is it when hes just on the lead or is it when hes running loose to without sounding bad he might be picking up on your nervous energy and making him worst try and stay calm and keep him calm if you can and  focused on you if a dog walks by but be prepared for a  long journey with ups and downs talk to casso or skycat on here I think socks as well all will give you sound advice on it 

You're dead right, as soon as another dog comes near, my blood's pumping too. I try not to react but they pick up on it. I use verbal commands when I see his heckles come up and he starts to growl but he's already in attack mode. I know balls to bones the problem is me not him, I just need to stop letting him get away with it by the sounds of it. Stop being so soft with him. 

[Fidolove 4]

1 hour ago, Welsh_red said:

I had a half choker for my dog and like yours he didn't give a shit about choking himself . 

I got a halti nose harness for him and he stopped pulling and I had uch more control over him . He'll hate the harness for a day or so but don't give in and take it off.  First time I went out with it we pretty much spent the whole time arguing with eachother until he accepted he had to wear it 

I used a nose harness, clever fecker worked out if he backed up he could slip out of it! He hated it, I tried having two leads and collars but have up on the halti and just used the choker right up too behind his ears.

1 hour ago, Black neck said:

Has the dog ever tucked in to another dog when loose off the lead

Nah, he used to run off lead when he was a pup but he was gobby and a bull terrier rip him a new arse.

[Casso 1,261]

8 minutes ago, Fidolove said:

You're dead right, as soon as another dog comes near, my blood's pumping too. I try not to react but they pick up on it. I use verbal commands when I see his heckles come up and he starts to growl but he's already in attack mode. I know balls to bones the problem is me not him, I just need to stop letting him get away with it by the sounds of it. Stop being so soft with him. 

Stimulation causes it’s own energy,  in other words when a dog is in a highly charged state you can either work with that energy or confront it ,

that’s  your two choices, 

when I bring a pup along for working , I walk only in fields, his whole focus is on me he’s in a flow state and he’s chilled out and that is the foundation for how he will feel out with me, 

every gobshite under the sun will tell you need to drag the pup out for months on end in traffic /dogs /noises/ other gobshites , whatever the world of fake news throws at you , 

pup needs none of it, none, at every crucial stages we’re confronting him with objects to qualify based solely on a Predator mindset ,and that’s the problem,  the predator without prey is stuck  with all that emotional baggage   What is prey / what is predator ??

working dogs sleep the sleep,  of the privileged,

a tiny % of dogs work in the world  but with it brings  a total comfort in spirt,because they have fulfilled their drive 

if a dog is over stimulated and under worked my advice  is get a tug item , get him on a long line and let him win until he starts bringing in the item , walk only in quiet areas , fed while out and don’t correct, manage the f****r , best of luck