Contingency Plans

[Meece 1,958]

Just now, ChrisJones said:

Doing my morning rounds of the news outlets I came across this article. It's about 600 homes in North Yorkshire that haven't had gas for three days. This is news. For me living out in the sticks utilities going out is nothing new. It's nothing more than an inconvenience. It's absolutely normal for the power to go out. In fact growing up in rip off Britain having to decide whether to have gas or electricity was sometimes a monthly decision based on who's costs trebled due to 'unforeseen operational advancements.'

I understand that Britain has gone through a bit of cold spell that's put extra strain on the infrastructure but at what point does the average person look out for their own interests without looking up the chain at a set of entitlements? This isn't a 'Doomsday Prepper' style scenario but a genuine curiosity on the contingency plans some of the THL faithful have in place. In the modern world 'survivalist types' are looked at with curiosity at best but looking into the recent past the survivalists I knew were simply called grandparents. They grew up under rationing and supplemented their food with what they grew. They knew how to purify water and split firewood. In 2017 it seems difficult to find anyone that knows how to do this that doesn't have their own reality TV show and when you mention it they'll show you an app on their phone.

In the mountains when the snow can keep you confined inside for days at a time it makes sense to have extra food in the pantry. It makes sense to have alternative forms of power and heating that supplement gas and electricity. Yet when I go into the city and read articles like that on the BBC, it seems that people are genuinely baffled that they're in charge of their own wellbeing and are quite happy to delegate that responsibility to an authority type body.

With respect members privacy, and certainly not asking for detailed lists, what sort of contingency plans do you have for minor/major inconveniences?

 

Just now, Born Hunter said:

I can't really envisage a 'situation' that needs a contingency plan as such. I mean if the gas goes off, ill put a coat on, if the leccy goes ill light a candle. Anything more serious id adapt and survive. Good clothes and tools and you can face just about anything imo.

 

Just now, ChrisJones said:

Yeah wasn't thinking an apocalyptic scenario more of a what if... It seems we're split into two camps. Those that can and those that have an app for it.

Well living in deepest Kent this scenario is really relevant. I have read a bit of the Ralpfs out in America who take this sort of thing really seriously. In a lot of cases they fear that the Government or the Commies are coming to do whatever they are going to do. Some have a hide out shack up in the wilderness mountains somewhere. In my thoughts, my situation is one of,  I own my own situation. My base is here. My family is based around here. We are well dug in and equipped with nearly everything that I/we need. We wouldn't get flooded and whatever happened I would rebuild here because the ability to do whatever it took is here. I read somewhere that the majority of the population only have a few hundred in the bank and if there was a major natural disasters that most people would be on skid row within a couple of months. One of the daughters and her husband had a laugh about what they would do in the event of the zombie apocalypse. They came up with the plan of >> round up the dogs, load the guns and ammunition, get to a food store and then get down here to match up with the stores, equipment, weapons, ammunition and general set up. But by the time all of that comes into being there would be civil upheaval and strife. Still if the government comes to take my last bullet I will give it up and find a bit of flint and make a spear and make a net out of fibre from stinging nettles stems. But it isn't ever going to happen. I always thought that David Icke was a complete lune but if you listen to what he says, it does make a lot of sense and the powers that be do want the population to be in a state of reliance on a load of short term crap ideas that leave everyone reliant upon the system. And if that falls it would be every man jack and his bit of driftwood.

[mushroom 13,253]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

Ok, brace yourselves, another one of my ludicrous conspiracy theories........

The powers that be don’t want anyone to be self sufficient.......that want you on the wheel of mortgage, paying the utility company, paying the credit card that you use to buy government food at Tesco......

See, as it stands......if a prospective politician walks up my drive now, I dont need that prick for a god damn thing......not one thing.

I don’t need him to alter anything to make my life better really because I don’t owe anybody and I don’t teally have to shop at their shops or do anything else if push comes to shove.

Well, none of them want you in that position do they because it makes them irellevant......totally f***ing irellevant !

(homegrown) food for thought I reckon

In Spain it's 'almost' illegal to generate your own electric via private solar panels or etc. Endesa is the energy company here in Spain and it's owned by Franco's/his generals/close mates families or decendents. Total stitch up mate. Fuuck 'em! Leeches the lot of them! No matter the colour, creed or culture, a career politician is a very very low worm

[keepdiggin 9,561]

Wolf sounds like your living the dream old boy

[Meece 1,958]

Just now, mushroom said:

In Spain it's 'almost' illegal to generate your own electric via private solar panels or etc. Endesa is the energy company here in Spain and it's owned by Franco's/his generals/close mates families or decendents. Total stitch up mate. Fuuck 'em! Leeches the lot of them! No matter the colour, creed or culture, a career politician is a very very low worm

What is the justification for this. When I've been out in Spain I've seen some right old hotch potch of mains wiring lash ups. How are they going to know what people are doing out in the sticks? I remember seeing a programme once about how Franco's family sort of had a load of immunity from stuff. But can't remember what.

[South hams hunter 8,934]

Not prepped as such but candle are strategically placed around so if leccy goes it will light the place up easy enough.

Headlights or torches in most draws and the sheds full of camping gear, traps and a few freezers full or all manner of fishing bait such as mussels, gar, crab, prawn, mackerel and even bread for groundbait. Put this with the fact that the end of the road is the tamar  which is full of food

[Greyman 28,944]

18 hours ago, ChrisJones said:

Yeah wasn't thinking an apocalyptic scenario more of a what if... It seems we're split into two camps. Those that can and those that have an app for it.

I have an aptitude for it and would love to live long enough to see civilisation  collapse, in that situation it is said that 90 percent of the civilised population would kill each other within a fortnight, I have a tendency to fall over quite a lot due to a neurological issue and a bit of Arthur in my spine, so I take a survival bag with me almost everywhere as I do a lot of walking on my own and need to be able to survive a night or two if I go down and am out of range, I have a space blanket, tarp, fire striker, several hundred meters of power cord, several torch,s and knives and a couple of dried ration packs, the bag is hanging up in my van and goes everywhere with me, so bring it on  

[scothunter 12,609]

Why is most preppers and survival nut jobs come across as if they just pray there is a disaster or collapse of civilisation lol 

 

@wilf just bought a bag of peat today after reading you're post. Never used it. Is it ok for a wood burner with the doors? I normally just burn wood and those coal egg things. Fill it up turn the dial to 1 and it heats water and radiators for hours. Does peat burn on the low setting aswell?

[greg64 2,856]

I have no mains services apart from electric and I have a genny if that go's off my water is a spring  and free , my waste is septic tanks,got 5 acre paddock which I do nothing with and should really keep a few animals and grow something but really can't be arsed 

[mackem 27,505]

If society looks as if its going to go tits-up watch a few bear grylls before the internet goes down,problem solved,if you have a bit longer to prepare enrol in his survival academy in surrey,guaranteed to emerge unscathed after any apocalyptical collapse or your cash refunded

 

[scothunter 12,609]

He's a wanker lol

[Greyman 28,944]

Totally agree glory hunting thrill seeker, totally different from survival were fire shelter and water are all that's needed  to get you through, I,ve never thought to myself I need to survive the night, I know the safest way is to abseil down a cliff face on a vine,  he's a total prick and his names Edward not bear, 

[Greyman 28,944]

2 hours ago, scothunter said:

Why is most preppers and survival nut jobs come across as if they just pray there is a disaster or collapse of civilisation lol 

 

@wilf just bought a bag of peat today after reading you're post. Never used it. Is it ok for a wood burner with the doors? I normally just burn wood and those coal egg things. Fill it up turn the dial to 1 and it heats water and radiators for hours. Does peat burn on the low setting aswell?

Would,nt say I,m nuts or a prepper just don't like what the modern world has become and think it's time the reset button was pushed, my survival bag is exactly that, I have gone a pisser twice in the last year smashing my ankle quite badly on one occasion and dislocating my shoulder and severing a tendon  on another,  so my survival bag comes with me everytime I go out alone, or I could sit in moaning and growing fat like many modern folk do, also think peat for the fire is cut in blocks and dried out , don't put John innes no3 potting compost in your fire it  could get messy 

[kanny 20,747]

It'll be rate.  I'm a Waitrose premium customer. 

[Chaff 3,622]

Think its safe to say that those that live closer to nature will be the ones that would stand a chance of surviving an apocalyptic scenario.

[WILF 47,615]

3 hours ago, scothunter said:

Why is most preppers and survival nut jobs come across as if they just pray there is a disaster or collapse of civilisation lol 

 

@wilf just bought a bag of peat today after reading you're post. Never used it. Is it ok for a wood burner with the doors? I normally just burn wood and those coal egg things. Fill it up turn the dial to 1 and it heats water and radiators for hours. Does peat burn on the low setting aswell?

Just use it the same mate, it’s fine in a wood burner, open fire or whatever.

its cleaner than bloody coal that for sure but it burns similar in that it glows rather than burns with a flame.

It smell nice too