Squirrel_Basher 17,101 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Anyone got any back in the day pics of hunting coypu on the broads and what did you think of the game versus dog back then ,were they a pushover . Quote Link to post
donnyc 1,203 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Puppy fodder ideal for 10 month old pups they just cry if a terrier goes in to them..They can chip away at a bayer but bay mix types do them good fun plus you often come on the big water game and that could go nasty Quote Link to post
bird 10,013 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, donnyc said: Puppy fodder ideal for 10 month old pups they just cry if a terrier goes in to them..They can chip away at a bayer but bay mix types do them good fun plus you often come on the big water game and that could go nasty why bother, no test for a terrier , sounds cruel if anything , test a dog on something that wants to fight back .!! Quote Link to post
TOPPER 1,809 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 had some fun in france on them but as been said there no test for a dog just puppy fodder really a mink has more go in it Quote Link to post
howdeeposxxt 1,448 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 37 minutes ago, bird said: why bother, no test for a terrier , sounds cruel if anything , test a dog on something that wants to fight back .!! Talking about a 10 month terrier, you do not want too discourage it by getting a trashing at that age. If this quarry is easy, but something of a mouthful it will make the terrier feel like a big man so too speak and give em confidents. Wish we had them around here. 1 Quote Link to post
donnyc 1,203 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, bird said: why bother, no test for a terrier , sounds cruel if anything , test a dog on something that wants to fight back .!! Seen bayers knocked up by them ..But when you are doing terriers for an old otter pack they are there to be got rid of, The damage they do to crops and banks of dykes and rivers they had to go...Like saying ferreting is cruel a pest is a pest...Trapping and hounds was the way back then 5 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,101 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Was talking to a lad older than me recently that used to do a few and it fuelled curiosity .He said they don't often bolt but ge also said he had a terrier drowned by one in deep water .Apparently it was a free for all for anyone with the drive to do it ,no pem needed . Quote Link to post
donnyc 1,203 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Very open some of them broads you could walk into a field with cattle grazing and we know what cattle are like with dogs let alone a pack of hounds ..When they ran towards the hounds drawing along a bank the whole field moved ..Terriers have got to have no fear of water and there were small trenches covered in rough grass and the coypu loved them some were a fair old length muddy and maybe up to the neck of a terrier in water but if bred right the terriers would run them and take hold..The things would walk on the bed of dykes etc strange animals but it was a break from the hunt work and kept terriers fit in the summer..If hounds marked ( something in) the other side of a deep river terrier would swim over to the mark and enter whatever they were marking no locaters in them days 5 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 I got a lovely present of some old copies of "Hounds" magazine from the '80s of a gentleman recently and in one there's a report on the Coypu cull. It says 31,000 Coypu were killed between 1981 and April 11th, 1987. This was carried out by 24 trappers, 3 foremen and 1 oversee manager. The last kill was at Wyboston, near St. Neots in Cambridgeshire. Quote Link to post
mackem 28,767 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, neil cooney said: I got a lovely present of some old copies of "Hounds" magazine from the '80s of a gentleman recently and in one there's a report on the Coypu cull. It says 31,000 Coypu were killed between 1981 and April 11th, 1987. This was carried out by 24 trappers, 3 foremen and 1 oversee manager. The last kill was at Wyboston, near St. Neots in Cambridgeshire. What traps were used neil?Would it be possible to scan the mags?Always interesting in that sort of thing.I found loads of coypu prints like a mini motorway of giant rat prints earlier this year in a muddy culvert in rural france,the farm I stayed in had them in the pond. 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 It's only a small bit of news in the news section Mackem. It said that the new floating platform traps were particularly effective. No mention of trap type. No mention of terriers or hounds either and back then the mag always gave recognition to the use of terriers. 1 Quote Link to post
mackem 28,767 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Ok mate,understood,thank you,always interested in old trapping articles. Quote Link to post
donnyc 1,203 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, neil cooney said: It's only a small bit of news in the news section Mackem. It said that the new floating platform traps were particularly effective. No mention of trap type. No mention of terriers or hounds either and back then the mag always gave recognition to the use of terriers. The old Eastern counties otterhounds hunted them on a regular basis and had a week based in one spot every summer ..Wyboston is a fair way from the main infected areas as we hunted way over near the suffolk coastline across to Snape maltings...The pack has changed now to the eastern counties mink hounds been out with them a few times but wasnt worth the walk ..Find more with terriers on a local stream that has a few 9 inch drains running off it never know whats at home in them always a surprise LOL 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 If 31,000 was the tally from the trappers we could probably safely say that packs, terriermen and wildfowlers probably killed many more so in reality there might have been a population of 50,000 at one time. And a cull was 100% effective. I read somewhere recently it's believed there could be 2,000 wild boar in Britain. Beavers will no doubt become a nuisance somewhere at some stage and political correctness will ensure that there'll be no culling whatsoever. The Coypu cull proves that evasive species can be eradicated. 1 Quote Link to post
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