Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) I like to think of the EU as a huge commercial gym and your a member of it. One day you and your mates decide to leave this gym and no longer wish to be a member of it. A gym that is badly run, dirty, costs more and more every month, has an appalling record of customer service and never listens to any concerns or ideas it's customers have for improving things. The equipment is old and those running it have little interest in it. And although it claims it values all of its members, it actually is quite happy having any one a member wether they are civilised or not. Fights and rapes have actually become common in the gym. Why would someone want to leave? It's obvious isn't it. What do you have to loose in leaving? Nothing, except heckling from those still members and a surprise small print bill to leave, that actually increases the longer it takes for you to officially get out of the building. Just my humble opinion, but seriously, what more is there to it? It's your choice. And because you have some dignity and respect for yourself, others will value you more. Hence the reason the rest of the world are lined up to do business with the UK. Edited December 7, 2017 by Neobliviscaris1776 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,667 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, JohnGalway said: Wasn't much fun being in the back seat of a Merc doing 160kph + on double solid lines on busy four lane two way road. With fat boy Adonis having the CB in one hand, his mobile pressed to his ear with the other hand and the radio turned up high enough to render both useless. I've seen not much more than kids doing power wheelies on super bikes on the main drag in Cyprus past the coppers and they didn't even blink a eye lid ....got to admit I kind of liked it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,667 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: I was thinking more of when it happens what is the absolute bottom line for Britain? I accept negotiations for the best trade deals should be taken but if nothing is negotiated and the time expires what is the worst that can happen to Britain at that nadir? Power cuts caused by the influx of 100,0000 watt hovers 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, kanny said: I've seen not much more than kids doing power wheelies on super bikes on the main drag in Cyprus past the coppers and they didn't even blink a eye lid ....got to admit I kind of liked it Cops are bent, was on a landrover safari, blind enough bend, those double solids again. Van over takes the land rover on the bend, next straight one of the two CHiPs lads are already moving. Landy and van pull over. Van takes off No cop follows him Landrover driver has to donate some €€€ to the police eyesight trust and away we go. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,667 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, JohnGalway said: Cops are bent, was on a landrover safari, blind enough bend, those double solids again. Van over takes the land rover on the bend, next straight one of the two CHiPs lads are already moving. Landy and van pull over. Van takes off No cop follows him Landrover driver has to donate some €€€ to the police eyesight trust and away we go. It's like that in a lot of places in Europe ...drive through Poland ,Lithuanian ect on foreign plates t make sure you take plenty of cash with you . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 When Irish drivers say someone else’s driving is bad........then you know it’s f***ing bad 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Truth is, it’s going to be very difficult for net beneficiaries who live in a very low crime country with low immigration and very advantageous tax laws to agree with someone who is a net contributor in a high crime country, getting rinsed for every penny and who’s towns and cities have become unrecognisable. They just won’t understand each other as myself and Johns chat on here clearly shows. Ireland has seen real benefits from membership, the EUs own blurb says they were a basket case prior to it. Ireland puts in €100 and get back €123 per head UK puts in €100 and gets back €60 per head of course them blokes are never going to agree. Edited December 7, 2017 by WILF 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,788 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 40 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: I was thinking more of when it happens what is the absolute bottom line for Britain? I accept negotiations for the best trade deals should be taken but if nothing is negotiated and the time expires what is the worst that can happen to Britain at that nadir? Realistically, a load of businesses become uneconomical due to tariffs, unemployment increases, cost of living increases, tax revenues drop leading to a reduction in public services/spending/gov, civil unrest, terrorism in NI, eventual collapse of the union, rise of hard line socialism, students having to get visas for their gap years. No guts no glory! Edited December 7, 2017 by Born Hunter 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Realistically, a load of businesses become uneconomical due to tariffs, unemployment increases, cost of living increases, tax revenues drop leading to a reduction in public services/spending/gov, civil unrest, terrorism in NI, eventual collapse of the union, rise of hard line socialism, students having to get visas for their gap years. No guts no glory! F*ck it. Lock and load! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Realistically, a load of businesses become uneconomical due to tariffs, unemployment increases, cost of living increases, tax revenues drop leading to a reduction in public services/spending/gov, civil unrest, terrorism in NI, eventual collapse of the union, rise of hard line socialism, students having to get visas for their gap years. No guts no glory! Suddenly I'm all for walking away with no deal right away! Seriously though it's a good point the accelerationists should think on. There's no guarantee that the society that is rebuilt after breaking it all down would be one they'd be any more happy with than what we have currently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,667 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 11 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Realistically, a load of businesses become uneconomical due to tariffs, unemployment increases, cost of living increases, tax revenues drop leading to a reduction in public services/spending/gov, civil unrest, terrorism in NI, eventual collapse of the union, rise of hard line socialism, students having to get visas for their gap years. No guts no glory! If we can have mad max style motors then I'm up for that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, BGD said: Suddenly I'm all for walking away with no deal right away! Seriously though it's a good point the accelerationists should think on. There's no guarantee that the society that is rebuilt after breaking it all down would be one they'd be any more happy with than what we have currently. Agreed. As I said earlier change regardless might not be beneficial. It's certainly something that requires people to make their elected officials accountable but that's as likely and the hunting ban being repealed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, kanny said: If we can have mad max style motors then I'm up for that I can do you a cracking deal on surplus munitions! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,667 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, ChrisJones said: I can do you a cracking deal on surplus munitions! Swap for 5 litres of pure salmon oil and we have a deal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: Agreed. As I said earlier change regardless might not be beneficial. It's certainly something that requires people to make their elected officials accountable but that's as likely and the hunting ban being repealed. I think it's another symptom of just how relatively good we have it these days despite the complaints we all have, folk who say it couldn't get any worse should look back in time at just how bad things can really be! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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