THE STIFFMEISTER 16,134 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Ah f**k it , here we go , so what unit did he serve with? I already know the answer, so what sqn? Be aware I’m very well versed with what “they”actually do so don’t think you won’t get called out! Im well aware about what the army’s requirements and more particularly what we don’t do. We aren’t an international police force and the last unit who went to Africa operated in a strictly omelt role who trained locals in tracking and weapon competancy yoy mentioned “if ordered” I can give you an exact answer to what would happen if an order was given to shoot non combatant women and children ! Whoever gave it, would get knocked out!! If a sniper shoots a bloke in a patrol and throws his weapon down , he’s now a non combatant! Its that f***ing simple either you or your mate , who I don’t think exists is talking out of there arse! Dont try to come the “legitimised murder “ shite either, every soldier who has been indicted has had the noon thrown at them , believe me it’s not nice boxing in handcuffs at times ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Complete nonsense no British soldier has been purposefully sent out to commit acts of murder against any group of people let alone women and children!!! As far as I’m aware, no one is allowed to go and “kill “ poachers , murder is illegal last time I looked please don’t ever compare the duties and sacrifices a brutish soldier carries out with that of a militia man in the k l a or a swapo irregular its completely insulting and embarrasses the memory of those who’ve served You put it much better than I could, my friend. I understand there are sick f*cks walking the streets. I understand that brutality and war can and do go hand in blooded hand. I also understand that rape and torture have been used as a military strategy. Doesn't mean it's right and it doesn't mean that decent people would suddenly start getting rapey without that mindset already being there. A wrong un is a wrong un and if you can condemn the crime in peacetime you can sure as sh*t condemn it in any form it manifests. Just because they did it doesn't mean it's okay to do it back. The world isn't just but no amount of justification can sway that raping men, women, and children as a military strategy is anything less than disgusting. You can fight and win a war without committing the most despicable of crimes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k99yle 53 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 28 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Ah f**k it , here we go , so what unit did he serve with? I already know the answer, so what sqn? Be aware I’m very well versed with what “they”actually do so don’t think you won’t get called out! Im well aware about what the army’s requirements and more particularly what we don’t do. We aren’t an international police force and the last unit who went to Africa operated in a strictly omelt role who trained locals in tracking and weapon competancy yoy mentioned “if ordered” I can give you an exact answer to what would happen if an order was given to shoot non combatant women and children ! Whoever gave it, would get knocked out!! If a sniper shoots a bloke in a patrol and throws his weapon down , he’s now a non combatant! Its that f***ing simple either you or your mate , who I don’t think exists is talking out of there arse! Dont try to come the “legitimised murder “ shite either, every soldier who has been indicted has had the noon thrown at them , believe me it’s not nice boxing in handcuffs at times ! It is estimated by the BBC that between 100,000 and 200,000 civilians being men, women and children were killed during the gulf war. Who killed them then. No british soldiers i take it? Of course I'm not saying they were killed on purpose. Thats just silly. The african poacher gig wasn't offered as part of the British army. This was working for a private company. I have no need to lie. I am a 47 year old father of 2 who has been about a bit. Not a child. At no point did i say anything was an order. You are taking everything very literally. We all know shit happens that should never happen. You call it something else and brush it under the carpet. Its easier that way. I know about the Geneva convention and all that. Not everything is done by the book. How long did you serve, , what was your job and rank, what conflicts were you involved in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,134 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Ten years , still in, Cpl , section commander 2 x herrick deployments , 2008 and 2010 , both in Helmand , one with 3 para , one with 1 RIR embedded into A company Private companies don’t and aren’t allowed to go and kill people for money. That’s called murder and is illegal at every level of law around the world , your fiend is clearly scum or lying to you if he exists No African country is paying for people to go and kill poachers , let alone ex british squaddies , you have no idea of the idiocy of your posts , it takes 5/6 weeks to acclimatise minimum , I’ve been to Africa numerous times and know this from experience and how Africa operates . If you think poachers are being killed by Africans for shooting elephants , your mental , there’s not an African alive who wouldn’t shoot every elephant left in Africa for 100 dollars Fantasies are dangerous for children , a man of your age should know better so the British army killed on average 4 Iraqi civilians each then? No one was going around killing civilians , your figures are laughable , you have no idea of how the army operates or how it is ran , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, k99yle said: You make some great points too as do many guys on here on this subject. My brother in law has been involved in killing countless men, women and children during 22 years in the British army. He is the most awesome bloke, mate, husband and dad that you ever met. He finds his way of justifying what he's done and that way he can sleep at night. The truth is that he's been brainwashed and cleverly manipulated by a tried and tested method used for countless years. How easily could he be encouraged to rape women and murder babies? If his mates were ordered to do it? Could he condone his actions by saying i only raped her, the bitch is lucky i didn't kill her? I did her a favour. It must have been better for her than f***ing her stinking rag head husband. He was going to go to Africa recently to kill poachers. He was well up for it but the job fell through. He is one of my closest mates and i have have known him all my life. Just a normal bloke. What is he capable of? 99% of men serving life in prison for murder are just normal blokes that snapped. We all have that potential. Governments can easily manipulate the masses into doing terrible things if they wish and could have easily got us to murder the Irish on mass if they wanted to. Of this I am sure Lol f**k me fella you want to get yourself a publisher and write some fiction you will make a fortune ... by the way tell your brother in law to stop filling your head full of shit lol ....... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,439 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 15 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Ten years , still in, Cpl , section commander 2 x herrick deployments , 2008 and 2010 , both in Helmand , one with 3 para , one with 1 RIR embedded into A company Private companies don’t and aren’t allowed to go and kill people for money. That’s called murder and is illegal at every level of law around the world , your fiend is clearly scum or lying to you if he exists No African country is paying for people to go and kill poachers , let alone ex british squaddies , you have no idea of the idiocy of your posts , it takes 5/6 weeks to acclimatise minimum , I’ve been to Africa numerous times and know this from experience and how Africa operates . If you think poachers are being killed by Africans for shooting elephants , your mental , there’s not an African alive who wouldn’t shoot every elephant left in Africa for 100 dollars Fantasies are dangerous for children , a man of your age should know better so the British army killed on average 4 Iraqi civilians each then? No one was going around killing civilians , your figures are laughable , you have no idea of how the army operates or how it is ran , You forgot your 10m swimming badge and “Man blown up most by grenades” award 5 years running ! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k99yle 53 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 16 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Ten years , still in, Cpl , section commander 2 x herrick deployments , 2008 and 2010 , both in Helmand , one with 3 para , one with 1 RIR embedded into A company Private companies don’t and aren’t allowed to go and kill people for money. That’s called murder and is illegal at every level of law around the world , your fiend is clearly scum or lying to you if he exists No African country is paying for people to go and kill poachers , let alone ex british squaddies , you have no idea of the idiocy of your posts , it takes 5/6 weeks to acclimatise minimum , I’ve been to Africa numerous times and know this from experience and how Africa operates . If you think poachers are being killed by Africans for shooting elephants , your mental , there’s not an African alive who wouldn’t shoot every elephant left in Africa for 100 dollars Fantasies are dangerous for children , a man of your age should know better so the British army killed on average 4 Iraqi civilians each then? No one was going around killing civilians , your figures are laughable , you have no idea of how the army operates or how it is ran , I can't be bothered to argue with you. I know the truth. You guys are so brainwashed its unreal. All good guys hey! Keep on invading distant lands and murdering their people over weapons of mass destruction that don't exist , Get yourself a medal and be proud. I salute you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k99yle 53 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 16 hours ago, socks said: Lol f**k me fella you want to get yourself a publisher and write some fiction you will make a fortune ... by the way tell your brother in law to stop filling your head full of shit lol ....... Due to the average reading and writing age of 40% of army recruits being 11 years old I take it not many soldiers will be publishing much. Give them a uniform and send them off to wherever we want to bomb next. Tell them its for queen and country and for the greater good of the world. Awesome Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,134 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 I would hurt you if you see one like that in a pub hopefully someone will one day 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,439 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, k99yle said: Due to the average reading and writing age of 40% of army recruits being 11 years old I take it not many soldiers will be publishing much. Give them a uniform and send them off to wherever we want to bomb next. Tell them its for queen and country and for the greater good of the world. Awesome That means that out of you and Socks my brother, at least one of you’s head to knees area only has a reading age of 11.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,134 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 You see Kyle , weaker people worry about GCSEs and the like we worry about more important things..... i may not be that good at that there reading, or “righting ma neam” but at the things that actually matter, I’m top of the class toodle pop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 41 minutes ago, k99yle said: Due to the average reading and writing age of 40% of army recruits being 11 years old I take it not many soldiers will be publishing much. Give them a uniform and send them off to wherever we want to bomb next. Tell them its for queen and country and for the greater good of the world. Awesome Tell me fella what great and good have you done for this country. I can probably guess but go on regale us with your stories of greatness ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,439 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: You see Kyle , weaker people worry about GCSEs and the like we worry about more important things..... i may not be that good at that there reading, or “righting ma neam” but at the things that actually matter, I’m top of the class toodle pop In fairness you did loose marks on the “Judgement” element of the course for just rinsing the potential suicide bomber with a machine gun ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,134 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 As nimble as a greyhound, as hard as Krupp steel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Knob of butter? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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