socks 32,253 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 I can guarantee you they won't be chomping at the bit mate ... rescuing scared and often injured civilians from drug and drunk crazed guerrillas in a hostile situation with minimal planning and even less intel is up there with the most dangerous of jobs with maximum risk of failure and death ... anybody that gets put on standby for this will be calling them hostages all the wankers under the sun ... that said once the gear is on and the op has started then obviously they will do their best to get the hostages themselves and their mates out of there alive .... but ops like this very rarely go off without casualties ........ 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 I agree these people went to do a job with all the right intentions despite the risks involved. The problem I have is when the shit hits the fan, they then put other people's lives at risk to come and get them out. To me it's like people who go to sea in a little boat or climb a mountain in bad weather conditions. Yes, they are risking their own lives, and the lives of so many others too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 I can guarantee you they won't be chomping at the bit mate ... rescuing scared and often injured civilians from drug and drunk crazed guerrillas in a hostile situation with minimal planning and even less intel is up there with the most dangerous of jobs with maximum risk of failure and death ... anybody that gets put on standby for this will be calling them hostages all the wankers under the sun ... that said once the gear is on and the op has started then obviously they will do their best to get the hostages themselves and their mates out of there alive .... but ops like this very rarely go off without casualties ........ Fair enough. You know better than me mate. Are you surprised that there is so little mention of it in the media? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 I can guarantee you they won't be chomping at the bit mate ... rescuing scared and often injured civilians from drug and drunk crazed guerrillas in a hostile situation with minimal planning and even less intel is up there with the most dangerous of jobs with maximum risk of failure and death ... anybody that gets put on standby for this will be calling them hostages all the wankers under the sun ... that said once the gear is on and the op has started then obviously they will do their best to get the hostages themselves and their mates out of there alive .... but ops like this very rarely go off without casualties ........ Fair enough. You know better than me mate. Are you surprised that there is so little mention of it in the media? Not at all mate if the government are planning a rescue mission there will be a media blackout so as not to give the captors a heads up ....... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,851 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 The lads have had extensive training in Africa over the last few years though, but I wouldn't know if that's an all army thing or just his brigade.?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,154 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Why travel to africa they could of just gone to southall or harrow 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 The lads have had extensive training in Africa over the last few years though, but I wouldn't know if that's an all army thing or just his brigade.?? Its got much less to do with the country your in and more to do with the force your fighting ... an ill disciplined drunk drugged up guerrila force is very unpredictable and very dangerous...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,851 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) The lads have had extensive training in Africa over the last few years though, but I wouldn't know if that's an all army thing or just his brigade.??Its got much less donwith the country your in wild and more to do with the force your fighting ... an ill disciplined drunk drugged you guerrila force is very unpredictable and very dangerous......Fair one mate, I get that.I genuinely would have no idea as I have no military experience at all other than pissing about with my pal and falling off the climbing wall at his camp when I had reached the heady heights of 4' 2" ! Lol Edited October 20, 2017 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 This article has a lot more information in it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/19/hunt-militants-kidnapped-british-missionaries-nigeria/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 And the Mcmanus rescue attempt from back in 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokoto_hostage_rescue_attempt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Big difference between being rescued off a mountain and going into a war zone or an unstable region when there is warnings there a good chance of being abducted kilked or used as pawns. Want to do good things well there plenty unfortunate souls here the homeless to name one. No need to go put yourself and others in harms way to do a good deed. reminds me of the drunken missionary from the movie zulu. Went to help them and got a spear in the chest lol I dont agree with that Scott people climb mountains for their own pleasure and to quote socks why should somebody have to risk their lives to help someone doing their hobby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,851 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 We should firm a THL mercenary force.......we could rock down there and bore them to death ! Lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Not saying mountain rescue dont get killed on the odd occasion and tbh they actually like the training as is written on there web site on ben nevis. However mountain rescue dont normally get fired at by RPGs or small arms in a rescue attempt. Also correct me if wrong but i dont think socks did say that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Not saying mountain rescue dont get killed on the odd occasion and tbh they actually like the training as is written on there web site on ben nevis. However mountain rescue dont normally get fired at by RPGs or small arms in a rescue attempt. Also correct me if wrong but i dont think socks did say that. I must of read it wrong. End of the day u go and climb a mountain it should be upto you to get yourself down just my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 The massive difference is the mountain rescue teams the RLNIst johns ambulence etc are all volunteers and if things get real iffy they can walk away anytime ... lads that are sent into a shit hole to rescue people have no say in the matter ..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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