kanny 20,542 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Do we know the yardage of the supposed shot?81m.......Only learnt that tonight following your link. Closer than I'd always thoughtYeah I was thinking it would be more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 The basic , basic truth is .... Lee Harvey Oswald was comfortably capable of taking that shot with that rifle Weather that is chosen to be accepted or not is a reflection on the believer Capable or not..........it's all the other conflicting information, namely witness statements etc that makes it truly makes worth looking beyond Oswald..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Do we know the yardage of the supposed shot?81m.......Only learnt that tonight following your link. Closer than I'd always thoughtYeah I was thinking it would be moreIt's still a moving target under immense pressure, assuming he wasn't super cool & just a normal guy..........no wonder people question it so much. Not to mention witnesses claiming Oswald was having a coke a few floors down around the time the shooting started...... .........this could go on all night! Haha... Edited October 16, 2017 by Accip74 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Look at the motorcade route and Oswald's position. He would have had a near perfect head on shot at probably less that 50 yards. If there was ever a time to fire it was then. Maybe he bottled it, maybe he was concerned it'd leave him little opportunity for follow up shots... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jfk+assassination+diagram&safe=off&client=tablet-android-samsung&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi17fr39vXWAhVFXBoKHdhJB9gQ_AUIESgA&biw=768&bih=1024&dpr=1#imgrc=p4WjQ8J6loNRPM:&xxri=7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Look at the motorcade route and Oswald's position. He would have had a near perfect head on shot at probably less that 50 yards. If there was ever a time to fire it was then. Maybe he bottled it, maybe he was concerned it'd leave him little opportunity for follow up shots... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jfk+assassination+diagram&safe=off&client=tablet-android-samsung&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi17fr39vXWAhVFXBoKHdhJB9gQ_AUIESgA&biw=768&bih=1024&dpr=1#imgrc=p4WjQ8J6loNRPM:&xxri=7 Either bottled it, wasn't quite ready............or? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,542 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Shooting down from a angel is always a trickier shot so maybe the increased distance but less angel makes more sense ...probably the reason he hit the tree with the first shot his aim point was way out he would need quite a bit of hold over at such a steep angel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Shooting down from a angel is always a trickier shot so maybe the increased distance but less angel makes more sense ...probably the reason he hit the tree with the first shot his aim point was way out he would need quite a bit of hold over at such a steep angel At the distances were talking here zero and holdover just aren't an issue. For whatever reason he chose to take a quartering away shot over a straight incoming shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I suppose the angles of approach and departure aren't that significant to make the approach the much better choice. I could be persuaded he chose to fire on the departure simply because it was longer and therefore offered more time for follow up shots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,352 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Do we know the yardage of the supposed shot? 90 yards at most is that it ffs there boy in air rifle section could took him out with rapid7 In .177 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,840 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Maybe his breathing was out? Maybe he made a loading malfunction, Maybe he banged his elbow? Who knows? But at that distance, the damage suffered by the target only indicates a specific range of calibres, Smaller would have left probably left a casing intact or delivered a non fatal wound except in head shot scenarios Larger would have left little to no head , the range matches the maximum stopping power of the calibre used, off the top of my head was it a 6.5 , a larger rifle required to be the weapon of choice for any further distances so beloved by conspiracy theorists would have marmalised the potus and likely his wife The fact she escaped unscathed suggests the correct rifle , at the correct angle, at the correct place Science can't be denied Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Fk me that was gruesome. Aye, that's the first time I've ever seen that - I don't know what I was expecting but, I wasn't expecting that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Do we know the yardage of the supposed shot?90 yards at most is that it ffs there boy in air rifle section could took him out with rapid7 In .177 We'd have had decent enough camo to blend into the grassy knoll and remain undetected 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,542 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Do we know the yardage of the supposed shot? 90 yards at most is that it ffs there boy in air rifle section could took him out with rapid7But he'd have a nasty bruise not a head like sledgehammered melon lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Maybe his breathing was out? Maybe he made a loading malfunction, Maybe he banged his elbow? Who knows? But at that distance, the damage suffered by the target only indicates a specific range of calibres, Smaller would have left probably left a casing intact or delivered a non fatal wound except in head shot scenarios Larger would have left little to no head , the range matches the maximum stopping power of the calibre used, off the top of my head was it a 6.5 , a larger rifle required to be the weapon of choice for any further distances so beloved by conspiracy theorists would have marmalised the potus and likely his wife The fact she escaped unscathed suggests the correct rifle , at the correct angle, at the correct place Science can't be denied LOL, is the science conclusive in this case? I'm not denying any of that. I'm just asking the obvious. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,542 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Fk me that was gruesome. Aye, that's the first time I've ever seen that - I don't know what I was expecting but, I wasn't expecting that.To be fair I gave warning lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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