Dan McDonough 560 Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 hours ago, deeley24 said: This is what I don't understand about people that work dogs why you always looking for the next best thing when we have proven crosses that are doing the job day/night already why make more shit crosses that no one can get homes for and end up in kennels, really annoys me tbh why fix something that isn't broken, why would you put a jaged instead of a beddy? What in your mind will that benefit it's hunting ability While I've not seen a Beddy here in the states, I have owned around 40 Jagdterriers. I've also trained quite a large number of hounds. I used to train bird dogs in my early 20's. Out of all of the dogs I've trained, some of the most versatile dogs I've ever seen have been Jagdterriers. Treeing, running track, retrieving, blood trailing, ground work, barn work and on and on and on. Over the years I've read time and again, discussions about the rarity of Beddies that are actually worked. It seems to me that the cross has worked for so long that people just make the cross anyhow. Well, I'll tell you something about the Jagdterriers here in the states. They get worked and worked hard in a good majority of the kennels that have them. It's easier to find one that has proven itself than one that has not. I'd sure rather pick from that than a house dog. I will never understand people that seem to have a distain for innovation or anything new. No one is telling you that you have to buy one and put any of your time into it. I've looked the world over and the only true first cross Whippet x Jagdterrier litter I know of is the one my pup came out of. Most of the pups have made very good dogs. That's a pretty good place to start, wouldn't you say? Jagdterriers are FAR more talented than just a ground terrier. That sounds like a great base for a lurcher if I've ever heard of one. It would be very interesting if someone of note raised and trained one over there...before leveling an opinion. 1 Quote Link to post
deeley24 72 Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 46 minutes ago, Dan McDonough said: While I've not seen a Beddy here in the states, I have owned around 40 Jagdterriers. I've also trained quite a large number of hounds. I used to train bird dogs in my early 20's. Out of all of the dogs I've trained, some of the most versatile dogs I've ever seen have been Jagdterriers. Treeing, running track, retrieving, blood trailing, ground work, barn work and on and on and on. Over the years I've read time and again, discussions about the rarity of Beddies that are actually worked. It seems to me that the cross has worked for so long that people just make the cross anyhow. Well, I'll tell you something about the Jagdterriers here in the states. They get worked and worked hard in a good majority of the kennels that have them. It's easier to find one that has proven itself than one that has not. I'd sure rather pick from that than a house dog. I will never understand people that seem to have a distain for innovation or anything new. No one is telling you that you have to buy one and put any of your time into it. I've looked the world over and the only true first cross Whippet x Jagdterrier litter I know of is the one my pup came out of. Most of the pups have made very good dogs. That's a pretty good place to start, wouldn't you say? Jagdterriers are FAR more talented than just a ground terrier. That sounds like a great base for a lurcher if I've ever heard of one. It would be very interesting if someone of note raised and trained one over there...before leveling an opinion. Fair enough mate Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 46 minutes ago, Dan McDonough said: While I've not seen a Beddy here in the states, I have owned around 40 Jagdterriers. I've also trained quite a large number of hounds. I used to train bird dogs in my early 20's. Out of all of the dogs I've trained, some of the most versatile dogs I've ever seen have been Jagdterriers. Treeing, running track, retrieving, blood trailing, ground work, barn work and on and on and on. Over the years I've read time and again, discussions about the rarity of Beddies that are actually worked. It seems to me that the cross has worked for so long that people just make the cross anyhow. Well, I'll tell you something about the Jagdterriers here in the states. They get worked and worked hard in a good majority of the kennels that have them. It's easier to find one that has proven itself than one that has not. I'd sure rather pick from that than a house dog. I will never understand people that seem to have a distain for innovation or anything new. No one is telling you that you have to buy one and put any of your time into it. I've looked the world over and the only true first cross Whippet x Jagdterrier litter I know of is the one my pup came out of. Most of the pups have made very good dogs. That's a pretty good place to start, wouldn't you say? Jagdterriers are FAR more talented than just a ground terrier. That sounds like a great base for a lurcher if I've ever heard of one. It would be very interesting if someone of note raised and trained one over there...before leveling an opinion. More to the point , it's your dog ,it pleases you , and that's the only thing it has to do ,regardless of whether it's jagd,Beddy,or shitzsu Quote Link to post
Guest Navek Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 6 hours ago, Dan McDonough said: I maybe full retard but at least I'm not trump lol Quote Link to post
Dan McDonough 560 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Navek said: I maybe full retard but at least I'm not trump lol In all seriousness Navek, that's the most fun I've had all week. Your welcome at my place any time. My wife nearly had an accident when she read your part about me being a hillbilly. That was pretty good. Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,145 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Dan McDonough said: While I've not seen a Beddy here in the states, I have owned around 40 Jagdterriers. I've also trained quite a large number of hounds. I used to train bird dogs in my early 20's. Out of all of the dogs I've trained, some of the most versatile dogs I've ever seen have been Jagdterriers. Treeing, running track, retrieving, blood trailing, ground work, barn work and on and on and on. Over the years I've read time and again, discussions about the rarity of Beddies that are actually worked. It seems to me that the cross has worked for so long that people just make the cross anyhow. Well, I'll tell you something about the Jagdterriers here in the states. They get worked and worked hard in a good majority of the kennels that have them. It's easier to find one that has proven itself than one that has not. I'd sure rather pick from that than a house dog. I will never understand people that seem to have a distain for innovation or anything new. No one is telling you that you have to buy one and put any of your time into it. I've looked the world over and the only true first cross Whippet x Jagdterrier litter I know of is the one my pup came out of. Most of the pups have made very good dogs. That's a pretty good place to start, wouldn't you say? Jagdterriers are FAR more talented than just a ground terrier. That sounds like a great base for a lurcher if I've ever heard of one. It would be very interesting if someone of note raised and trained one over there...before leveling an opinion. That cross isn't that uncommon over here, theres some for sale on gumtree here at the moment.There been using leggy Russell cross whippets here forever on pigs,deer in thick scrub and blackberry and do a more than a decent job,so your not reinventing the wheel.On predators over there I can see there use, but for here and more so the UK they would be a bit of overkill imo.Beddy or Russell crosses are more than adequate. Quote Link to post
Guest Navek Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Dan McDonough said: In all seriousness Navek, that's the most fun I've had all week. Your welcome at my place any time. My wife nearly had an accident when she read your part about me being a hillbilly. That was pretty good. Lol was good fun .all best for the rest the season ?? Quote Link to post
delboy_187 904 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Dan McDonough said: America was a known place well before the Pilgrims got here. There were whites here before the Injuns. There were also giants with red hair. Before that the Annunaki, Nephilim, Raphiem, etc., etc. The Templars were hiding crap over here. The Vikings were here. The Asians were here. It's a long history. All them breeds an American ejit ????? bit like a terrier I'd say strength of the viking an all speed of the Asians .. beying like an injun 1 Quote Link to post
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