Barbarian1990 220 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I got two dogs a few months back and after getting them right I've now tried both of them the younger dog showed his inexperience but I was quite pleased with him. The older dog worked it well stayed in one place after about 15/20mins so we waited another 10 mins no movement so started digging. Everything was going well until we just about broke through and the dog moved. These are my first dogs so I'm a proper beginner but my mate I was out with said it looks like the old lads been hit with the spade before and he's now scared of it. I'll try him again but don't know if it's something I did or the poor sods had some shovel and now don't trust me. Any advice welcome cheers Quote Link to post
j316 119 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Don't know much about terriers could try putting his food near or on the spade so dog feels safe around it 1 Quote Link to post
Waz 4,261 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Try and break through well behind the dog, when you rescue your terrier, might have to dig a slightly bigger hole, takes a bit of skill/luck/guesswork, carefully probe a bit with the T bar to find the tube if you need to. Sound of your voice might help. But... the dog might just not have the grit for the final force of the quarry when you are about to break through when it gets a bit hot. 8 Quote Link to post
Barbarian1990 220 Posted September 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Cheers will try that, I was worrying it could be that Quote Link to post
Pirate 9000 676 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I don't think the dogs bothered by the spade when you're just about to break in the dog his most under pressure, and should hold the animal in the stop end the dogs gave way when he's been tested and let it push past him. 1 Quote Link to post
Barbarian1990 220 Posted September 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I don't think the dogs bothered by the spade when you're just about to break in the dog his most under pressure, and should hold the animal in the stop end the dogs gave way when he's been tested and let it push past him. If I'm being honest with myself mate I think your right. My mate said that at the time but think he could tell I was a bit upset so tried to humor me lol Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) Not all terriers are out going, do or die merchants. Some work away perfectly but the shovel can spook them sometimes. Like Waz said, try break through just behind the dog rather than onto the collar. Edited September 30, 2017 by Rabbit Hunter 2 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I got two dogs a few months back and after getting them right I've now tried both of them the younger dog showed his inexperience but I was quite pleased with him. The older dog worked it well stayed in one place after about 15/20mins so we waited another 10 mins no movement so started digging. Everything was going well until we just about broke through and the dog moved. These are my first dogs so I'm a proper beginner but my mate I was out with said it looks like the old lads been hit with the spade before and he's now scared of it. I'll try him again but don't know if it's something I did or the poor sods had some shovel and now don't trust me. Any advice welcome cheers No digging terrier will come into its own until it has been entered on numerous occasions over the course of the season.Experience is the only gauge of a terriers working value and only then can true judgement be plausible.Each and every time a terrier gets dark and dirty it learns its trade a tad more and a season or two under its belt is a truer reflection of the tykes purpose.Throw some graft at the mutt and make your mind up when its had a season or 2 above it. 6 Quote Link to post
Barbarian1990 220 Posted September 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I got two dogs a few months back and after getting them right I've now tried both of them the younger dog showed his inexperience but I was quite pleased with him. The older dog worked it well stayed in one place after about 15/20mins so we waited another 10 mins no movement so started digging. Everything was going well until we just about broke through and the dog moved. These are my first dogs so I'm a proper beginner but my mate I was out with said it looks like the old lads been hit with the spade before and he's now scared of it. I'll try him again but don't know if it's something I did or the poor sods had some shovel and now don't trust me. Any advice welcome cheers No digging terrier will come into its own until it has been entered on numerous occasions over the course of the season.Experience is the only gauge of a terriers working value and only then can true judgement be plausible.Each and every time a terrier gets dark and dirty it learns its trade a tad more and a season or two under its belt is a truer reflection of the tykes purpose.Throw some graft at the mutt and make your mind up when its had a season or 2 above it. The old lad is six and I don't know what it's done before, I'll keep trying him but will concentrate more on the younger dog. Quote Link to post
the goat 642 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Try and follow the dog on the box and work out which direction he came from. Try and knock in on his arse and not the collar...also go steady as your about to knock in. The naturals usually make it look like they done it all they're lifes from day 1 but some others may need tweaking. Good luck and remember some young terriers really can test your patience but give them every chance and it may pay off. Keep at it 1 1 Quote Link to post
Waz 4,261 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 A favourite bitch of mine went through a funny period, maybe a bit shovel shy, I dont ever remember anything going wrong at break through, she always had the game in a stop, as if she just eased off as the shovel and daylight slid in. After a few times of it happening I took it very easy at the end of getting down to her, levelling out the bottom of the dig all nice and neat, pause now and again, few gentle words. She seemed to get over it quick enough. & to be truthful, slowing down before breakthrough & listen to her right up to her stuff made it even more enjoyable. They arent machines. I always aim to drop in behind the dog ideally, dont take log to open around them & the quarry. 3 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 That is very true. 2 Quote Link to post
MENACE 35 Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 5ft down..no need for racism. 1 1 Quote Link to post
lukey 1,621 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Try the dog again in an easy enough spot, one time moving before you broke through aint enough to know whats happened as there plenty of things that could have happened! Good luck with the dog Quote Link to post
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