breeze 1,297 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 shame buster wernt a bitch,,,,then you could put one of maxs greys or a coursing type over....depending on your prefrance ive got the option of using a bitch pup out of buster and a bull/grey if i wanted to breed a pup for myself. i would put birds buck over her Trigg.... Not telling you how to suck eggs or owt, but if you went down that road wouldn't you end up with something very similar to the young dog now ? 4 Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,137 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 shame buster wernt a bitch,,,,then you could put one of maxs greys or a coursing type over....depending on your prefrance ive got the option of using a bitch pup out of buster and a bull/grey if i wanted to breed a pup for myself. i would put birds buck over her Trigg.... Not telling you how to suck eggs or owt, but if you went down that road wouldn't you end up with something very similar to the young dog now ? yep build wise. the bitch i could use dont lack any speed by all acounts. and buck aint exactly a slow dog. i like to take a punt. theres some good greyhound blood in both buck and the bitch aswell. but like i said earlier i would prefer to buy in. its just a option and a thought at the moement. the lurcher X lurcher on busters sire line has got alot of sighthound through it aswell. Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 You ought to wait to see if your fat mate uses his useless mutt over anything trig suit you down to the ground Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 IMG-20170926-WA0016.jpgIMG-20170926-WA0015.jpgIMG-20170926-WA0014.jpg There you go trig Nice one. 1 Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 You ought to wait to see if your fat mate uses his useless mutt over anything trig suit you down to the ground Whos his fat mate you lanky turd im glad i pissed on that meat now lol Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 You ought to wait to see if your fat mate uses his useless mutt over anything trig suit you down to the ground Whos his fat mate you lanky turd im glad i pissed on that meat now lol Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,137 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 You ought to wait to see if your fat mate uses his useless mutt over anything trig suit you down to the ground Quote Link to post
Marvel 469 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 My mates bitch just had a litter dam a bull grey sire a beddy grey. Both handy both about 23 inch dams sire was a 28tts If both parents are bred properly that should be a real handy litter. Quote Link to post
TALKCHEAP 183 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 i am looking for a new pup as the young dog i have now just simply hasnt got the pace i need, so ive made the desicion to cut my losses and look for another pup to bring on. the pup ive got here now is just turned 18 months. i am looking for a pre ban allround type of dog 25tts plus just incase the ban gets lifted, if anyone is planning or knows to anyone thats planning any future matings would you be kind enough to let me know. i like my herding types generally but my be willing to give a plain old lurcher to lurcher bred dog ago providing its from good working parents. ideally i want to be staying away from bull blood. and not a massive lot of collie, but for this 1 dog i will remain open minded. ive got a couple of options in mind but it means breeding myself and to be honest i would just rather buy a pup in. speeds not every thing, knowing you id say it was heart. the pup will get stronger and faster,id say once again you have not learnt by your mistakes,why don't you be honest and say what you really want, alsatian x or are you scared you might lose a few fans,knowing what to do and putting it into practice is two different things. 1 Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I know trigg has fond memories off alsation xs and if this his the case I could sort a grey bitch for him and he could se ta get the use of the alsation dog and breed some I believe saving time by waiting or breeding ones own his not always guaranteed ,but like one says if one has a true desire the only way to quench that desire his ta try one, but I believe trigg wants more than just a alsation xs I believe a touch of bull and more hound will give more scope for his needs.where some of us make do fare play he looking fa the holy grail in versatility down here in his chosen area of work.alsation grey back ta three quarter grey bull,or either alsation grey back ta saluki bull grey. Or alsation grey deerhound bull grey atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 i am looking for a new pup as the young dog i have now just simply hasnt got the pace i need, so ive made the desicion to cut my losses and look for another pup to bring on. the pup ive got here now is just turned 18 months. i am looking for a pre ban allround type of dog 25tts plus just incase the ban gets lifted, if anyone is planning or knows to anyone thats planning any future matings would you be kind enough to let me know. i like my herding types generally but my be willing to give a plain old lurcher to lurcher bred dog ago providing its from good working parents. ideally i want to be staying away from bull blood. and not a massive lot of collie, but for this 1 dog i will remain open minded. ive got a couple of options in mind but it means breeding myself and to be honest i would just rather buy a pup in. speeds not every thing, knowing you id say it was heart. the pup will get stronger and faster,id say once again you have not learnt by your mistakes,why don't you be honest and say what you really want, alsatian x or are you scared you might lose a few fans,knowing what to do and putting it into practice is two different things.. Mistakes I feel come in different views I think choosing wrongly mistake to much to soon mistakes ,but trigg here states the dog lacks a gear ,it will gain speed has you say right up till around three yrs old ,but will this be enough I believe a mans take and belief of his animal to be respected for just that and if he believes he ain't gonna hack it speed wise that's how it his.he running him.and it his what it his and one should respect the mans word atb bunnys Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,721 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 i am looking for a new pup as the young dog i have now just simply hasnt got the pace i need, so ive made the desicion to cut my losses and look for another pup to bring on. the pup ive got here now is just turned 18 months. i am looking for a pre ban allround type of dog 25tts plus just incase the ban gets lifted, if anyone is planning or knows to anyone thats planning any future matings would you be kind enough to let me know. i like my herding types generally but my be willing to give a plain old lurcher to lurcher bred dog ago providing its from good working parents. ideally i want to be staying away from bull blood. and not a massive lot of collie, but for this 1 dog i will remain open minded. ive got a couple of options in mind but it means breeding myself and to be honest i would just rather buy a pup in. speeds not every thing, knowing you id say it was heart. the pup will get stronger and faster,id say once again you have not learnt by your mistakes,why don't you be honest and say what you really want, alsatian x or are you scared you might lose a few fans,knowing what to do and putting it into practice is two different things.. Mistakes I feel come in different views I think choosing wrongly mistake to much to soon mistakes ,but trigg here states the dog lacks a gear ,it will gain speed has you say right up till around three yrs old ,but will this be enough I believe a mans take and belief of his animal to be respected for just that and if he believes he ain't gonna hack it speed wise that's how it his.he running him.and it his what it his and one should respect the mans word atb bunnys When it comes to starting pups at work, patience is more than just a virtue, it's an absolute necessity. Don't care what type or cross you have, running rabbits at 4-5 months old is foolish and impatient, and you'll quite possibly curtail the potential adult speed. stamina and working longevity of the dog. And I don't mean 4, 5, 6 runs a couple of times a week, a few times is all it takes to ruin the dog's potential. Seen it plenty of times over the years, pup starts to get a little bit of pace about it, and they're all keen as f**k, so owner thinks 'great' let's get him/her some runs'. Why?! Wait until it's starting to mature a bit. Not singleing trigger2 out, but surely, any pup, especially one that was as big and gangly as his pup, should be left til it's older before giving it any runs at rabbits. 2 Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 i am looking for a new pup as the young dog i have now just simply hasnt got the pace i need, so ive made the desicion to cut my losses and look for another pup to bring on. the pup ive got here now is just turned 18 months. i am looking for a pre ban allround type of dog 25tts plus just incase the ban gets lifted, if anyone is planning or knows to anyone thats planning any future matings would you be kind enough to let me know. i like my herding types generally but my be willing to give a plain old lurcher to lurcher bred dog ago providing its from good working parents. ideally i want to be staying away from bull blood. and not a massive lot of collie, but for this 1 dog i will remain open minded. ive got a couple of options in mind but it means breeding myself and to be honest i would just rather buy a pup in. speeds not every thing, knowing you id say it was heart. the pup will get stronger and faster,id say once again you have not learnt by your mistakes,why don't you be honest and say what you really want, alsatian x or are you scared you might lose a few fans,knowing what to do and putting it into practice is two different things.. Mistakes I feel come in different views I think choosing wrongly mistake to much to soon mistakes ,but trigg here states the dog lacks a gear ,it will gain speed has you say right up till around three yrs old ,but will this be enough I believe a mans take and belief of his animal to be respected for just that and if he believes he ain't gonna hack it speed wise that's how it his.he running him.and it his what it his and one should respect the mans word atb bunnys When it comes to starting pups at work, patience is more than just a virtue, it's an absolute necessity. Don't care what type or cross you have, running rabbits at 4-5 months old is foolish and impatient, and you'll quite possibly curtail the potential adult speed. stamina and working longevity of the dog. And I don't mean 4, 5, 6 runs a couple of times a week, a few times is all it takes to ruin the dog's potential. Seen it plenty of times over the years, pup starts to get a little bit of pace about it, and they're all keen as f**k, so owner thinks 'great' let's get him/her some runs'. Why?! Wait until it's starting to mature a bit.Not singleing trigger2 out, but surely, any pup, especially one that was as big and gangly as his pup, should be left til it's older before giving it any runs at rabbits. . Look it's like this i don't believe it's got anything ta do with knocking a rabbit or 2over I believe the animal was doing that from a very early age ,and in some circumstances I agree ,but getting out and about early don't necessary mean running the guts out a pups freely with older animals,I will say it again there be times we see and it sticks and fa this animal that may be the case it's no big deal ,only the brave that move on reap the rewards eventually. There's nothing worse than some folk that keep lurchers da a decade and more disliking the animal each and more every day ,and believe me there's a few of these on here they had running dogs some of them decades and only had a small handful of animals now fa me they are either the luckiest b*****d in the world or ain't asking fa much from them or ain't got the balls or the balls ta declare a failure. It takes a good man to remove animals kept and reared from welps ta retry again like we says there's dog men and those that keep dog.and Triggs a dog man.atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 i am looking for a new pup as the young dog i have now just simply hasnt got the pace i need, so ive made the desicion to cut my losses and look for another pup to bring on. the pup ive got here now is just turned 18 months. i am looking for a pre ban allround type of dog 25tts plus just incase the ban gets lifted, if anyone is planning or knows to anyone thats planning any future matings would you be kind enough to let me know. i like my herding types generally but my be willing to give a plain old lurcher to lurcher bred dog ago providing its from good working parents. ideally i want to be staying away from bull blood. and not a massive lot of collie, but for this 1 dog i will remain open minded. ive got a couple of options in mind but it means breeding myself and to be honest i would just rather buy a pup in. If you own a dog that lacks what you desire what are you going to breed from at home?and why did it take you until the mutt was 18 months of age before you realised it lacked pace?.The ban for lurchers will never be lifted and a lurcher never needed to be 25tts to be an allrounder.If you can source a genuine allrounder that as no Collie in the mix you may waste another 18 months. 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,721 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 i am looking for a new pup as the young dog i have now just simply hasnt got the pace i need, so ive made the desicion to cut my losses and look for another pup to bring on. the pup ive got here now is just turned 18 months. i am looking for a pre ban allround type of dog 25tts plus just incase the ban gets lifted, if anyone is planning or knows to anyone thats planning any future matings would you be kind enough to let me know. i like my herding types generally but my be willing to give a plain old lurcher to lurcher bred dog ago providing its from good working parents. ideally i want to be staying away from bull blood. and not a massive lot of collie, but for this 1 dog i will remain open minded. ive got a couple of options in mind but it means breeding myself and to be honest i would just rather buy a pup in. speeds not every thing, knowing you id say it was heart. the pup will get stronger and faster,id say once again you have not learnt by your mistakes,why don't you be honest and say what you really want, alsatian x or are you scared you might lose a few fans,knowing what to do and putting it into practice is two different things.. Mistakes I feel come in different views I think choosing wrongly mistake to much to soon mistakes ,but trigg here states the dog lacks a gear ,it will gain speed has you say right up till around three yrs old ,but will this be enough I believe a mans take and belief of his animal to be respected for just that and if he believes he ain't gonna hack it speed wise that's how it his.he running him.and it his what it his and one should respect the mans word atb bunnysWhen it comes to starting pups at work, patience is more than just a virtue, it's an absolute necessity. Don't care what type or cross you have, running rabbits at 4-5 months old is foolish and impatient, and you'll quite possibly curtail the potential adult speed. stamina and working longevity of the dog. And I don't mean 4, 5, 6 runs a couple of times a week, a few times is all it takes to ruin the dog's potential. Seen it plenty of times over the years, pup starts to get a little bit of pace about it, and they're all keen as f**k, so owner thinks 'great' let's get him/her some runs'. Why?! Wait until it's starting to mature a bit.Not singleing trigger2 out, but surely, any pup, especially one that was as big and gangly as his pup, should be left til it's older before giving it any runs at rabbits. . Look it's like this i don't believe it's got anything ta do with knocking a rabbit or 2over I believe the animal was doing that from a very early age ,and in some circumstances I agree ,but getting out and about early don't necessary mean running the guts out a pups freely with older animals,I will say it again there be times we see and it sticks and fa this animal that may be the case it's no big deal ,only the brave that move on reap the rewards eventually. There's nothing worse than some folk that keep lurchers da a decade and more disliking the animal each and more every day ,and believe me there's a few of these on here they had running dogs some of them decades and only had a small handful of animals now fa me they are either the luckiest b*****d in the world or ain't asking fa much from them or ain't got the balls or the balls ta declare a failure. It takes a good man to remove animals kept and reared from welps ta retry again like we says there's dog men and those that keep dog.and Triggs a dog man.atb bunnys. Getting any pup out and about is fine, but running them on 5, 6, 7 or however many on the same night aint gonna do any pup any good. And I never said running the guts out of it, which incidentally, running a 5 month old pup on that many aint far short of running the guts out of it. No one is going to agree on every aspect on when to start a pup, and I agree with you, keeping a dog which isn't what you expected, or you just dislike is stupid. But again like I've said, and not just trigger2, could be anyone, running a pup that young is a little silly 4 Quote Link to post
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