David.evans 5,323 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 I've been zeroing the .223 with ppu's 55g , and then swapping to hornday 55g , for shooting The BC I belive is the same but the grouping are different , not a lot , but enough to wonder if I should just stick to one make , or am I missing something Atb Quote Link to post
lllluke1 329 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Why zero with one and shoot with another? Why not just zero with what you shoot with? Or am I missing something? Edited September 23, 2017 by lllluke1 2 Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted September 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Ppu's are are half the price of horn day Quote Link to post
lllluke1 329 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Ppu's are are half the price of horn day That explains that then. Is there much of a difference performance wise against a fox with them? Quote Link to post
Underdog 2,337 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Just use the ppu mate. 1 Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Stick to one. The BC of the bullet might be the same or similar but the powder loads are different. Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Yeah stick to 1 mate. I use ppu fmj to get my rifles on paper then fine zero with my chosen load. This new Ruger M77 doesn't like Hornady unfortunately so I use Norma to great effect. Quote Link to post
andyf 144 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 You need to zero with exactly the same make, type and bullet as you intend to shoot, if that's factory then the same must be used. The whole point of zeroing is to 'tune' the scope to the barrel & ammo. For a first 'go' with a newly installed scope, or a new / different rifle yes ok use Privi to get yourself on the paper, then chuck them back in the truck and use the 'good' stuff forever afterwards. From experience a finely zeroed hand load in my 22.250 cuts a single ragged 3 shot hole at 100 yards, Through exactly the same set up Privi 55gr FMJ looked like a shotgun pattern, it was so bad I wouldn't use it for anything except a fouling shot on a cleaned barrel or to get the brass back! So the idea of setting up with Privi then using something else is not a good one! AF 2 Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 I'm lucky as my rifles love ppu Quote Link to post
riflehunter583 58 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 if i were you i would just decide which is the most accurate and use that only. its not really needed to use cheaper ammo to get on paper. if you look through the bore with bolt out and ajust scope too bore you can start to find zero then fine tune with most accuarte ammo choice 1 Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted September 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 All good But it's not that simple with the N870 NV on top ! Atb Quote Link to post
ianm 2,594 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 All good But it's not that simple with the N870 NV on top ! Atb It's exactly the same principle as using a dayscope. I used to borescope my n750 and now my Drone pro. Quote Link to post
Baldcoot 2,352 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 My .243 hates PPU with a vengance ,garden hose doesnt cover it but loves Hornady Whitetail ,the manufacturing differences are simple .Americanski dont do carp,Ak is only supplied with carp and PPU maka lotsa carp for eastern european customers who AK during national service. Americans are absolute simple it must be fit for purpose or i am not buying it ,we are ripped off sideways so a lot buy on price 15 quid PPU or 26 quid Hornady is a no brainer for Brits dealing with foxes. BUT if your rifle doesnt like the variations in PPU manufacture its tough titty get your wallet out or miss atb Quote Link to post
samphire 18 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I've been zeroing the .223 with ppu's 55g , and then swapping to hornday 55g , for shooting The BC I belive is the same but the grouping are different , not a lot , but enough to wonder if I should just stick to one make , or am I missing something Atb £12a hundred for PPus in 50 grain is cheap and if they group well with your set up and the bullets work on target the saving is considerable, and could be a factor if you are shooting big numbers of round wiping out vermin and jobs like that. you have to decide if you shoot enough rounds in the field to make cost a concern, look at the advantages on accuracy you get if any on the two pick the best is my advice accuracy first cost second by honest with yourself giving up accuracy even though the savings are considerable is about weighing up the difference and will any difference impact your performance in the field. To answer your question i do not like swapping anything when it works this eliminates adjustments saves time and expense even wear and tear. Stick to the most accurate one. Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted September 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 £12.00 for 20 , I think you mean Sam , lol Sam , I know what your saying , but with the range finder on the n870 , I'm trying to get it at 00/00 , it's not that easy But I've nearly done it's just got to come over a bit more ! Atb Lads Quote Link to post
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