Rez 4,957 Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Late to this damn it. As a new shooter... You learn more about what your pellets doing as leaves the barrel with .22 than you do with .177. End of. Isn't that the foundation of being a good marksmen? knowing what you've just shot, where it is, where it will land and learning the art? Using .177 from new or too much, you literally become a slave to the caliber... I've done it myself. Just aiming dead on at anything from 12 - 42 yards... Great you've killed what your aiming at, your a great shot, but what really have you had to do? Aim dead on, breath, relax, squeeze. Your not bettering yourself. You don't really have to think within reason. It's so error elimating you can see why FT shooter use it. It speaks so itself. .177 is for killing stuff... .22 if for becoming better perhaps, or learning more. Nuff said really. 1 Quote Link to post
Rez 4,957 Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 As an extra. I've done it myself with my rapid... I use it to fill the game bag, or to do a job. It's the first rifle out on a new perm, as I know it will make the land owner happy. It's easy for me to get the job done. Clearly I'm only referring to PCP format. Those who shoot the smaller caliber from a spring unit, Marko and the lads that shoot 177 springers very well in fact... it's the other side of the coin... there's an art to the control of the rifle. But then again, .22 springer shooters have to deal with the rifle and the caliber? At the end of the day, .22 is a harder caliber to shoot accurately than .177 at an unknown field situation or distance, being as that's what really matters on THL... killing shit 2 Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 if you want the 22 experience with a 177 gun just get stupid heavy pellets . With a pcp you will get better down range power with the 177 than with a 22 if the pellet weight is the same , but with a spring gun a heavy 177 pellet shoots total cr.p . 1 Quote Link to post
mark williams 7,550 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 When all is said and done, there is no advantage between calibres out to 30 yds. After 30 yds the dreaded trajectory of .22 kicks in, but dreaded only through spindle branches/ woodland, on open ground - if you have calibrated your rifle, both calibres are deadly accurate and neither calibre is harder to shoot than the other, " on open ground". Quite a rare moment, shooting dead on, in field situations with .177. As you all know I love to static hunt/ ambush the quarry and more often than not, with either calibre, I have to allow for wind, even at air rifle ranges of no more than 35 yds, " usually". I have shot .22 since my first gun 1970, so 47 years practice for me.( nearly half a century ) I have shot .177 since 2011, so 6 years practice, for me. At sub 12 ft/lbs the .177 cal trumps .22 in most aspects (for me), after 12 ft/lbs, ( fac) the .177 cal is pretty much out of contention. Just my opinion lads, no calibre debate intended. atb Mark. 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,780 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Best to learn to shoot both that way you can jump from one to the other these were shot with 22 2 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,780 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 And these with 177 NOTHING WRONG WITH MY SHOOTING MARK ATVBJIMMY :thumbs: Quote Link to post
mark williams 7,550 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 No one mentioned your shooting mate but how many of these were shot from spindle branches ? I stand by what I said, either calibre out to 30 yds in any area after 30 yds, (for me) .177 in woodland, shooting through spindle branches. Either calibre on open ground. Nice shooting, by the way Jimmy Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just get to know your set up in any of the cals , Gun , Scope , Pellet and what you are capable of that includes .177 , .20 , .22 and .25 . As long as you know your set up all four cals will do the same . Good old saying " beware the man with one gun " and that counts for any gun all cal 2 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,780 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 .177 it is then, you know it makes sense Yep Tim, ( Charlie), .177 is the calibre at sub 12 by a country mile, ( for me also). Iron sights ? Mac and VM cut their teeth on iron sights have you seen the state of their shooting ? " Only saying like" You want to read back before you post Mark atvbjimmy :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
Rez 4,957 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 .177 it is then, you know it makes sense Yep Tim, ( Charlie), .177 is the calibre at sub 12 by a country mile, ( for me also). Iron sights ? Mac and VM cut their teeth on iron sights have you seen the state of their shooting ? " Only saying like" You want to read back before you post Mark atvbjimmy :thumbs: Pahhhhh. Near big man. Markos top dog... he must be right even I believe the HW100 is the perfect rifle. 177 is the best caliber for everything. Dare anyone point out otherwise. My god, he basically becomes a tree with his fieldcraft. Love the Mukka Quote Link to post
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