ChrisJones 7,975 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 It certainly was when my kids went to school. I'd be in agreement until they started offering sport, media, and culture degrees which included David Beckham as part of the curriculum. Sorry, I'm just not happy subsidizing that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,678 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Stumfelter I don't think Wilf is saying he pays over 50% income tax. He's saying over 50% of his annual earnings ends up as tax revenue. He might still be wrong but that's how I am understanding it. Take for instance when you buy fuel. At £1.20 a litre, like it is at the moment, 58p of that is duty and 20p of that is VAT. Bought with money you have already been taxed on at least once! Tax freedom month is 6 and a half months into the year, that's the day you stop working for the taxman. That's a well known fact. If folk actually took a minute to look this stuff up it's pretty easy to find that the whole rate for everyone is someplace between 40 and 50%......more for some. As usual BH, you have understood me perfectly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,678 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Small percentage!? The NHS is one of the largest parts of the budget. Without it we could virtually do away with income tax.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_2017_United_Kingdom_budgetIf you don't pay tax the NHS is free, you can't get a smaller percentage than that!Nothing comes for free mate and that really is a fact.I'm not trying to piss on anyone's chips, you give the government 6 and a half months wages every year.....only you can decide if that's value for money. Me, I looked all this stuff up, found out and came to the conclusion it wasn't .......hence I checked out. Whatever sits right with you I suppose matey. Could you give me some idea where you looked it up as I must be doing something wrong as I'm on PAYE and don't pay anything like six and a half months wages in tax. I'm not surprised you opted out as you must have been in the super Dooper tax bracket. Of course you do, everyone does mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Stumfelter I don't think Wilf is saying he pays over 50% income tax. He's saying over 50% of his annual earnings ends up as tax revenue. He might still be wrong but that's how I am understanding it. Take for instance when you buy fuel. At £1.20 a litre, like it is at the moment, 58p of that is duty and 20p of that is VAT. Bought with money you have already been taxed on at least once! Now that I can understand! Thanks for clearing it up, my bad. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Like all government systems, they're extremely wasteful with zero accountability, It's not all bad,I've just got a free hoover off my mate,they've been throwing a lot of broken ones away at the hospital he works at recently. Or the cleaners and their managers think they're broken when they get rid,they actually just need a new bag In the world of 'everything for everybody' the bottomless hoover bag is a reality. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,731 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 britain, born free taxed til death Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,678 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 britain, born free taxed til death Actually you are not, you are born owing about 25 grand ! Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 britain, born free taxed til death Actually you are not, you are born owing about 25 grand ! Lol I can only speak for myself, but I'm financially sound for the rest of my life....... ........as long as I die next Tuesday ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Wont be long until the b*****ds find a way to plunder peoples life savings The y already have ! It's called residential care ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,921 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 That and inheritance tax Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,678 Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 And let's not forget, the 6 and half month figure WONT include all those fixed penalty stealth tax tickets that the councils and police seem so eager to hand out now days. You used to be able to pop into a shop and get the congestion charge or pay at booths at the dartford tunnel but they made it online only so now people forget and they earn even more money out of FP tickets. What a f***ing scam the whole rotten lot is ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solution BGD 6,436 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Solution Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Well ex-Lib Dem Henry Bolton has won the leadership election and saved UKIP from becoming the UK Nazi party. http://news.sky.com/story/henry-bolton-elected-new-ukip-leader-at-torquay-conference-11059408 Henry Bolton has been elected as the UK Independence Party's new leader. The little-known former Army officer beat off competition from six others, including Ann Marie Waters, an anti-Islam candidate whose prospect of election was the subject of huge internal division. He becomes UKIP's fifth leader in 11 months. In his victory speech, Mr Bolton said he wanted the UK to become a "prosperous nation" and one that was "proud to be called British". He added: "While Brexit is our core task, that greater goal, which is ongoing beyond the time that we leave the EU, that is our core purpose." Ms Waters' supporters were said to be "positively mutinous" after the result was declared. But Mr Bolton told Sky News: "Whether they want to stay or leave, that's up to them." He warned earlier in September that UKIP was in danger of becoming the "UK Nazi Party" if it picked the wrong leader, appearing to refer to Ms Waters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,678 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Ex Lib Dem.......he should be good ! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 I did a bit of a double take when I heard that too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Spent all of 5 minster reading about him but he seems very respectable. Ex army, had roles in the UN etc and the candidate Farage selected himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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