September 11Th

[j j m 6,539]

I remember it well a verd sad day.r.i.p all those people that lost there lives

[The one 8,477]

I think it was like the world war , it really woke America up to terrism 

[Greyman 28,440]

17 hours ago, The one said:

I think it was like the world war , it really woke America up to terrism 

Ffs America has been awake to terrorism for decades as they,ve been funding it, including 19 years of funding bin laden to fight the Russians and countless years of ira funding to kill the English to name but a few examples

[.357shooter 1,211]

i did watch a bit more of it on the telly last night but turned it off when those poor desperate souls started to jump

[MickC 1,825]

On that day it was a tragedy with the loss of so many innocent lives however there are so many discrepancies with the Official Story with so much more info coming to light in the years since that simply do not tie in with the official report on 911. Three skyscrapers can not collapse in Free Fall with the last one of them not even touched by anything,the same building that was also announced to have fallen by a CNN reporter despite still standing for a few minutes after her announcement before actually collapsing. There are so many discrepancies being brought to light now by organisations like the Truth Movement and from former fire fighters at the scene even architects and other scholars who have raised issues that can not be explained away,even down to people who are now dying from inhaling all the dust/debris from the cloud after the buildings collapsed which has been found to be saturated with Thermite an explosive used in building demolition . Even down to the "let's roll" phonecalls from flight 93 which were allegedly made at a height that can still not be made today. Just months before the attacks on the world trade centre the lease was privatised and sold to Larry Silverstein. Silverstein took out an Insurance Policy that fortuitously also covered terrorism. After the 911 atttacks Silverstein took the Insurance Company to court,claiming he should be paid double because there were two attacks. Silverstein won and walked away with over $4.5 billion . Silvestein bought the Towers with $15 million of his own money and $100 million from his backers.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/unanswered-questions-the-mystery-of-flight-93-173206.html

https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

http://aa911.org/

http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/

http://www.stj911.org/

https://www.mintpressnews.com/911-larry-silverstein-designed-new-wtc-7-one-year-attacks/214821/

 

Edited September 13, 2018 by MickC

[Born Hunter 17,763]

7 minutes ago, MickC said:

On that day it was a tragedy with the loss of so many innocent lives however three skyscrapers can not collapse in Free Fall with the last one of them not even touched by anything,the same building that was also announced to have fallen by a CNN reporter despite still standing for a few minutes after her announcement before actually collapsing. There are so many discrepancies being brought to light now by organisations like the Truth Movement and from former fire fighters at the scene even architects and other scholars who have raised issues that can not be explained away,even down to people who are now dying from inhaling all the dust/debris from the cloud after the buildings collapsed which has been found to be saturated with Thermite an explosive used in building demolition . Even down to the "let's roll" phonecalls from flight 93 which were allegedly made at a height that can still not be made today.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/unanswered-questions-the-mystery-of-flight-93-173206.html

https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

http://aa911.org/

http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/

http://www.stj911.org/

 

Without even interrogating that stuff properly I can point out one mistruth you claim immediately. WT7 was damaged, badly! Pictures even posted on this thread iirc.

In my experience all of it has reasonable explanations when you start digging.

[Born Hunter 17,763]

On 12/09/2017 at 16:12, ChrisJones said:

 

It was very badly damaged, mate. The southwest corner was demolished from the ground to the eighteenth floor taking several support columns and a diesel fire, from the backup generators, burned for several hours further weakening the remaining supports.

 

From NYPD..

 

 

The firefighters reported that the building began to 'bulge' between what was left of the 10th and 13th floors and they evacuated when the building began to sag.

 

From NIST...

 

 

The conspiracy says that there was a controlled explosion. There is no evidence at all to support that. Not a trace has been found. The conspiracy says that a diesel fire cannot melt steel. That is correct but it can weaken the steel significantly. When you combine a seven hour fire with the remaining structural failures you're left with a collapse.

 

 

 

 

See above!

 

[MickC 1,825]

We could go back and forth all day but the fact still remains that three buildings came down in Free Fall and that can not and does not tie in with the official explanation of 911. A skyscrapers main strength is the concrete core which houses the lift shafts etc and this is also the core which the rest of the building ties into,it's designed this way to cope with any foreseeable external damage to the building. There is enough info available for both sides of the argument to rage on for years to come and no doubt it will but the fact remains that more and more evidence is coming to light to doubt the official report of 911.

Edited September 13, 2018 by MickC

[ChrisJones 7,975]

5 hours ago, MickC said:

There is enough info available for both sides of the argument to rage on for years

Only one side is raging on, mate.

[liP 700]

To this day I still think  the heat from the plane on impact and the sheer weight of the building above the crash zone all contributed to the collapse off the tower. 

I believe  the American security services knew something big was coming but just did not have the details to stop it. 

Governments can be pretty  ruthless and the Americans can be one of the worst when it suits but, there's no way (in my view)  that they would of gone to those depths, killing they're own 

[Rat face 1,655]

Anyone been to ground zero? 

I was there before Xmas last year and to me it felt very real, Hearing the fone calls left on people's voicemails was the worse. And seeing the damage to fire trucks an the massive steel beams torn in half was fairly moving moment one I will never forget. 

[Born Hunter 17,763]

1 hour ago, Rat face said:

Anyone been to ground zero? 

I was there before Xmas last year and to me it felt very real, Hearing the fone calls left on people's voicemails was the worse. And seeing the damage to fire trucks an the massive steel beams torn in half was fairly moving moment one I will never forget. 

The museum and memorial are so much more meaningful and impactful being at ground zero too I found. Standing amongst skyscrapers helps a bit to put it in perspective.

[scothunter 12,609]

We have went to war and invaded countries for a lot less. 

No need to wipe out there firemen and a building on the prefix for an invasion. A car bomb in the street would have done if that was there intention. 

I like millions of others saw the reason why those towers fell and have seen /read anything else to convince me otherwise.

Did they capatalise after the fact of course they did. 

Did they know it was going to happen that very day to those particular target's no they didn't.

Did they receive intel that planes could be used in this manner yes they did. 

Complacency and "won't happen to us" thinking was a factor.

[Basharbob 1]

The 11th is my Birthday. I will never forget 11th Sep 2001 as one of the most surreal days of my life.  

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Well said Scot.

The evidence is there for anyone who wants to trawl through it. Enough to turn me from a conspiracy theorist, anyway. I believe this far along there is no evidence enough for those that don't want to believe it was a tragic chain of events. There is simply no way to convince them otherwise. That being said I'd love to see actual hard evidence of a conspiracy. I'll wait...