neems 2,406 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ?.........is it the nationalism or the socialism ?What I find distasteful is that the nazis were defeated at great cost. Yet, some silly sods, whos grandparents were likely part of that fight, think it ok to go around giving nazi salutes and saying things like 'hitler was right' It's just not British. Is arresting people for having unpopular opinions not un-British? Because as far as I can see that's what this amounts to,and that's the real issue here. Edited September 9, 2017 by neems 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ?.........is it the nationalism or the socialism ?What I find distasteful is that the nazis were defeated at great cost. Yet, some silly sods, whos grandparents were likely part of that fight, think it ok to go around giving nazi salutes and saying things like 'hitler was right' It's just not British. Maybe people are being driven to theNeo nazism because of the route the country is taking..... Something pushed the Germans towards it A healthy level of nationalism is a good thing. Hell, we should all be proud of where we come from. However, I think a few disillusioned folk are confusing it with Nazism - for what we need to happen with our current problems, this is counterproductive. That ideology, for example, would see the rejection of Sikhs and Gurkhas that have settled here and raised families after fighting for this country. Islamic nutters/Nazi nutters - we don't need any of them. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ?.........is it the nationalism or the socialism ?What I find distasteful is that the nazis were defeated at great cost. Yet, some silly sods, whos grandparents were likely part of that fight, think it ok to go around giving nazi salutes and saying things like 'hitler was right' It's just not British. Is arresting people for having unpopular opinions not un-British? Because as far as I can see that's what this amounts to,and that's the real issue here. Good point But, there is a fuzzy difference between freedom of speech and incitement. ...... What I don't like about this is the way Islamists can burn poppies and carry placards with obviously confrontational slogans and, not be arrested. Yet, someone like Tommy Robinson isn't allowed to express an opinion on YouTube without receiving police harassment. It's tricky and, it'll take an intelligent response but, we don't have to become scumbags to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,547 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I dont think anyone on this thread has defended what Hitler's version of national socialism turned into.......I myself abhore any type of totalitarian government ideology. However, the word Nazi like the word Racist is banded about willy nilly now days to gain a certain emotional reaction in the masses. As we all know "NAZI" is the abbreviation of the name of a political party and so really is completely meaningless as a discriprion of a person. Calling someone a "national socialist workers party" don't really have the same effect ! Lol Double speake and sensationalism......that's what most people base their opinions and subsequent reactions on.........F minus I'm afraid, it's why the wankers keep getting elected 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 National Action literally describe themselves as Nazis so in this case I'd say it's a perfectly accurate label. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 National Action literally describe themselves as Nazis so in this case I'd say it's a perfectly accurate label. So if I describe myself as an astronaut does that make me Buzz Aldrin? As I keep saying your deluded... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Maybe if the 4 soldiers were turned up as Hezbollah sympathisers, plotting to bomb the Israeli embassy, our Commie chum wouldn't be quite so strident ? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Good point But, there is a fuzzy difference between freedom of speech and incitement. ...... What I don't like about this is the way Islamists can burn poppies and carry placards with obviously confrontational slogans and, not be arrested. Yet, someone like Tommy Robinson isn't allowed to express an opinion on YouTube without receiving police harassment. It's tricky and, it'll take an intelligent response but, we don't have to become scumbags to do it. It's pretty clear cut in my mind tbh,intent and capability make a threat viable. I could threaten to blow up the moon and kill all life on Earth,but as it's not possible for me to do that it isn't really a viable threat. Likewise odd lads in their late teens and early twenties claiming they're going to take over Britain and ethnically cleanse the nation isn't a real threat. If they were targeting,threatening or planning to harm individuals that'd be different. There is obviously an anti-white agenda in the UK too pushed by most politicians and their underlings (as you can see with 'Tommy'),which polarises people,drawing them to one extreme or the other,the propaganda either draws them in to the established narrative or the injustice radicalises them,this is happening at an increasing rate as you may have noticed recently. Better get used to it because this isn't changing anytime soon. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,547 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I dont think anyone on this thread has defended what Hitler's version of national socialism turned into.......I myself abhore any type of totalitarian government ideology. However, the word Nazi like the word Racist is banded about willy nilly now days to gain a certain emotional reaction in the masses. As we all know "NAZI" is the abbreviation of the name of a political party and so really is completely meaningless as a discriprion of a person. Calling someone a "national socialist workers party" don't really have the same effect ! Lol Double speake and sensationalism......that's what most people base their opinions and subsequent reactions on.........F minus I'm afraid, it's why the wankers keep getting elected I can tell you put alot of thought into that post. I read it once and didn't understand it at all. I'll be honest iwont read it a second time. Not a dig. Just honesty I didn't put any thought into it at all, stating the obvious don't take much brain power........which is handy because I was expelled at 14 and I'm not very academic ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 released without charge earlier...... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,747 Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 released without charge earlier...... good job hope there all released and stop this silly boll.x 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 released without charge earlier...... Two released and more time granted to question the other three. https://www.itv.com/news/central/2017-09-10/two-soldiers-arrested-on-suspicion-of-terrorism-offences-released-without-charge/ Two serving soldiers who were arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences have been released without charge. The men, both aged 24, from Northampton and Ipswich were arrested on on 5 September and were released without charge on 9 September. They were also alleged to be members of the banned neo-Nazi group National Action and were arrested on suspicion of preparing acts of terror. Three other men, a 22-year-old from Birmingham, a 32-year-old arrested in Powys and a 24-year old from Northampton (arrested in Cyprus) remain in police custody. Detectives have been granted extra time to question these three men. The arrests were pre-planned and intelligence-led and West Midlands Police said there was no threat to the publics safety. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,245 Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 What the f@ck is it with these left wing commy c@nts that they support a terrorist group like the IRA I see the support for them on some ex miners pages and if you mention muslim terrorists you are soon kicked off.?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,887 Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 trust me lads, BGD is loving this, hes as bad as axum loves to come on here and wind the shiite out of the rest. him, db and axum, dodgy gits 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,261 Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 Good stuff there out. Fair play to em bet there just normal lads who want the best for OUR country 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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