steve t 996 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 does using an old dog for a stud, [12], have any drawbacks, ie low sperm count, weak pups or anything? Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,467 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 If you use him on bitches he'll be fine, it's a case of use it or loose it 6 Quote Link to post
Dabhand 887 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Dont think that it costs a lot to get them tested Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 If you use him on bitches he'll be fine, it's a case of use it or loose it Absolutely, if he can do the job and is tried and tested, use him. I wouldn't breed of an old bitch though unless she was in great nick for her age. 2 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Just to add, old time cockers used to say, and maybe they're right, was age on one side, youth on the other. It worked for them. 3 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 My old Fly dog was still at it at the age of 13 though he needed a lie down after lol. 3 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,467 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 If you use him on bitches he'll be fine, it's a case of use it or loose it Absolutely, if he can do the job and is tried and tested, use him.I wouldn't breed of an old bitch though unless she was in great nick for her age. Like this one at 12 years old, she'll be 13 in November 9 Quote Link to post
Dabhand 887 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Age is but a number 1 Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 does using an old dog for a stud, [12], have any drawbacks, ie low sperm count, weak pups or anything?A mate used my dog at 12 yr old to a 6 yr old bitch and she had a good strong healthy litter. If the dogs fit and healthy and is everything you like in a working terrier then use him mate. 4 Quote Link to post
steve t 996 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 thanks lads, put my mind at rest, just want to try one more litter out of him. Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Hope all goes well 1 Quote Link to post
chesney 5,458 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 I've see 12/13 dogs cover younger bitchs and they threw healthy enough litter but a vet will tell handy enough I brought me old dog to a vet last year before I tried him on a bitch but age had caught him vet says he have the gun but no ammunition lol. 1 Quote Link to post
stevemac 442 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 the older stud does give rise to possible genetic defects in the pups just as older men fathering children can lead to genetic faults in their off spring. A dog I had that was a very popular stud produced pups in his older years that had a particular gennetic defect that pups he produced when a young dog did not have. Quote Link to post
stonewall 1,913 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 get straws drawn from ur good dog .i was humming and hawning about doing it, just as well i did because i lost a important dog at the tail end of last yr.i can go back and get his straws for a bitch in 10 to15 yrs time.old age never becomes a problem then. 3 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 If you use him on bitches he'll be fine, it's a case of use it or loose itAbsolutely, if he can do the job and is tried and tested, use him.I wouldn't breed of an old bitch though unless she was in great nick for her age. Like this one at 12 years old, she'll be 13 in November 20170523_161733-1.jpg That's it, worked hard but treated like Royalty, the way it should be and they should live well into retirement. Some families of terriers seem to have reputation for longevity. I don't know about nowadays but the Park dogs a few years ago had a rep for working and breeding late in life. It's a good thing. If you're lucky enough to have a great terrier who's bred from late in life then in theory you could be working his grandsons/ daughters over 20 years after the great dog was born. That's 2 generations whereas it would usually be 4,or 5 generations in that time and the great dogs genes would be well watered down at that stage. I plan on still being a stud well into old age myself. 5 Quote Link to post
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