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I consider myself very experienced at navigation my advice to you would be get someone who is experienced in all forms of navigation to teach you the fundamentals its much easier to be shown how to navigate by map and compass than have someone try to explain to you in a forum,if you are buying a compass and are intending to get alot of use from it then I would highly recommend k&r alpine compass but been confident in using one is far more important than who made it good navigation skills and knowing how to handle adverse weather conditions are a MUST.

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No point taken mate. Its just i know there a few points on ben nevis that if you stray off the path in bad weather its a sheer drop. I can get the compass points to stick to online. Might being a bit cautious though.

Your definitely being over cautious, Ben Nevis is just a big hill and in my opinion t shirt, shorts and trainers are perfectly adequate. Maybe a pair of tracky bottoms in winter but that's about it. All this compass malarky is not needed if your lost just ask some f*cker for directions like everybody else. Man up ffs.

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There are always some windup merchants on any forum,but lets take stumfelter post at face value ,tell that advice to the mountain rescue and see what sort of reaction you get .my thought for today is education can't be taught to some people but ignorance comes free.

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There are always some windup merchants on any forum,but lets take stumfelter post at face value ,tell that advice to the mountain rescue and see what sort of reaction you get .my thought for today is education can't be taught to some people but ignorance comes free.

I know exactly what you mean, most forums also have an up their own a*se newbie who doesn't quite understand the p*ss taking on certain forums but jumps in with both feet regardless....

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Socks

 

I am a mountain leader in both summer and winter, I am a jsml in summer conditions

And due to the fact I cannot keep mouth shut I invariably end up as point man or check nav on insertions lol

 

Mapric is hard to get on now if your not going to a phase 1 establishment, I've tried for a few years now

 

Tony 1916

 

There are plenty of young kids and parents who wish they'd packed more than a pair of track bottoms, people train for alpine expeditions in the highlands of Scotland, as a Scottish winter is as hard and as challenging as anything found on the planet baring the poles , there are literally hundreds of books on navigation , weather and skills required ,

 

Scothunter look on eBay for the cheaply priced mountain leader training handbooks , or failing that mountain craft and leadership by the great Eric Langmuir, a man who recocked the professional standards of mountain leaders

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Socks

I am a mountain leader in both summer and winter, I am a jsml in summer conditions

And due to the fact I cannot keep mouth shut I invariably end up as point man or check nav on insertions lol

Mapric is hard to get on now if your not going to a phase 1 establishment, I've tried for a few years now

Tony 1916

There are plenty of young kids and parents who wish they'd packed more than a pair of track bottoms, people train for alpine expeditions in the highlands of Scotland, as a Scottish winter is as hard and as challenging as anything found on the planet baring the poles , there are literally hundreds of books on navigation , weather and skills required ,

Scothunter look on eBay for the cheaply priced mountain leader training handbooks , or failing that mountain craft and leadership by the great Eric Langmuir, a man who recocked the professional standards of mountain leaders

Ok don't show off nobody likes a show off lol ..... I was only asking as I did the mapric course many moons ago and there was a civvie instructor who was a proper eccentric and I was wondering if he was still there .......

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It's all got very serious all of a sudden ?

If I remember right the main path passes within feet of gardyloo gulley (either that or I was miles off course), so if you make even a tiny mistake on your grid bearing you're definitely going to plunge thousands of feet to your death. No pressure ??

Forces lads are usually well trained in this so their advice will be solid. Mate of mine (in the forces) had done his mountain leader and got us off the top of the Big Buachaille in a near white out. Without his skills I'd have been goosed.

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