Tony1690 5 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 I consider myself very experienced at navigation my advice to you would be get someone who is experienced in all forms of navigation to teach you the fundamentals its much easier to be shown how to navigate by map and compass than have someone try to explain to you in a forum,if you are buying a compass and are intending to get alot of use from it then I would highly recommend k&r alpine compass but been confident in using one is far more important than who made it good navigation skills and knowing how to handle adverse weather conditions are a MUST. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 No point taken mate. Its just i know there a few points on ben nevis that if you stray off the path in bad weather its a sheer drop. I can get the compass points to stick to online. Might being a bit cautious though. Your definitely being over cautious, Ben Nevis is just a big hill and in my opinion t shirt, shorts and trainers are perfectly adequate. Maybe a pair of tracky bottoms in winter but that's about it. All this compass malarky is not needed if your lost just ask some f*cker for directions like everybody else. Man up ffs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony1690 5 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) There are always some windup merchants on any forum,but lets take stumfelter post at face value ,tell that advice to the mountain rescue and see what sort of reaction you get .my thought for today is education can't be taught to some people but ignorance comes free. Edited August 28, 2017 by Tony1690 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 http://ben-nevis.com/safety/safety.php Big hill thats killed a lot of people some experienced climbers.you may be right about not needing a compass but i will pass on you're shit advice of shorts and tshirts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 There are always some windup merchants on any forum,but lets take stumfelter post at face value ,tell that advice to the mountain rescue and see what sort of reaction you get .my thought for today is education can't be taught to some people but ignorance comes free. I know exactly what you mean, most forums also have an up their own a*se newbie who doesn't quite understand the p*ss taking on certain forums but jumps in with both feet regardless.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,746 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Socks I am a mountain leader in both summer and winter, I am a jsml in summer conditions And due to the fact I cannot keep mouth shut I invariably end up as point man or check nav on insertions lol Mapric is hard to get on now if your not going to a phase 1 establishment, I've tried for a few years now Tony 1916 There are plenty of young kids and parents who wish they'd packed more than a pair of track bottoms, people train for alpine expeditions in the highlands of Scotland, as a Scottish winter is as hard and as challenging as anything found on the planet baring the poles , there are literally hundreds of books on navigation , weather and skills required , Scothunter look on eBay for the cheaply priced mountain leader training handbooks , or failing that mountain craft and leadership by the great Eric Langmuir, a man who recocked the professional standards of mountain leaders 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Socks I am a mountain leader in both summer and winter, I am a jsml in summer conditions And due to the fact I cannot keep mouth shut I invariably end up as point man or check nav on insertions lol Mapric is hard to get on now if your not going to a phase 1 establishment, I've tried for a few years now Tony 1916 There are plenty of young kids and parents who wish they'd packed more than a pair of track bottoms, people train for alpine expeditions in the highlands of Scotland, as a Scottish winter is as hard and as challenging as anything found on the planet baring the poles , there are literally hundreds of books on navigation , weather and skills required , Scothunter look on eBay for the cheaply priced mountain leader training handbooks , or failing that mountain craft and leadership by the great Eric Langmuir, a man who recocked the professional standards of mountain leaders Ok don't show off nobody likes a show off lol ..... I was only asking as I did the mapric course many moons ago and there was a civvie instructor who was a proper eccentric and I was wondering if he was still there ....... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,220 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 It's all got very serious all of a sudden ? If I remember right the main path passes within feet of gardyloo gulley (either that or I was miles off course), so if you make even a tiny mistake on your grid bearing you're definitely going to plunge thousands of feet to your death. No pressure ?? Forces lads are usually well trained in this so their advice will be solid. Mate of mine (in the forces) had done his mountain leader and got us off the top of the Big Buachaille in a near white out. Without his skills I'd have been goosed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,393 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Handy to have about your person if your out and about you never know. Especially when you walk out onto a sand bar in the fog and dark and lose your sense of direction with the tide coming in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Wise move mate. Nevis kills a fair few folk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
air gun ant 1,666 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 I remember learning to read a compass etc in beavers, cubs and scouts. But there's been a lot of time, drugs and beer happened between then and now lol ? lucky if I can find the village shop first time around these days 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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