Favourite Big Game Animal

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,736]

That’s how I get to work most days 

[Welsh_red 4,629]

Love the way they shoved grass down his throat for the journey 

[Rabid 1,936]

Has anyone stopped to consider, maybe we view the big 5 (or 8 ) differently as we don't have them in our country.

I was once told I was wrong for shooting rabbits in the numbers I did, by a shooting man, because they had no rabbits and he couldn't grasp we could shoot 100 in an evening without batting an eyelid.

Do we look at elephant, rhino, lion etc, differently to the guys out there, would we look at them the same if they were native in our own lands ?

I have never been big game hunting, I have done safari circuit, I know the local ways out there, I also know how valuable those animals are to the locals, usually on the black market unfortunately.

I have seen the evidence BH talks about, hunting providing conservation, and it does work, it's been proven, it has all the numbers stacked up in its favour to prove it.

I was also privy to the destruction from poaching, I saw the aftermath, I can honestly say it was a lot more unpleasant than any true hunt/hunter I have ever witnessed, poaching brings  riches to a very minority group, hunting provides conservation (and riches) to not only larger groups, but the habitat and the wildlife concerned.

Would I pay for a big game hunt, most certainly, if I had the spare money and opportunity, would I pull the trigger at the end, I don't honestly know until I was in that situation, but I am certainly not against those who do, yes some of them I do think are big headed ego grabbers, but without them I fear the animals we love to see will be gone a whole lot quicker if those countries were left to their own devices.

So far on this thread I have seen no real argument for it to stop, I have seen some reasonably good debate for it to continue, countered by abuse and name calling, neither grown up nor productive for the debate of stopping it, so in conclusion I have to agree with BH that it is fuelled by emotion.

 

[Welsh_red 4,629]

1 hour ago, Rabid said:

Has anyone stopped to consider, maybe we view the big 5 (or 8 ) differently as we don't have them in our country.

I was once told I was wrong for shooting rabbits in the numbers I did, by a shooting man, because they had no rabbits and he couldn't grasp we could shoot 100 in an evening without batting an eyelid.

Do we look at elephant, rhino, lion etc, differently to the guys out there, would we look at them the same if they were native in our own lands ?

I have never been big game hunting, I have done safari circuit, I know the local ways out there, I also know how valuable those animals are to the locals, usually on the black market unfortunately.

I have seen the evidence BH talks about, hunting providing conservation, and it does work, it's been proven, it has all the numbers stacked up in its favour to prove it.

I was also privy to the destruction from poaching, I saw the aftermath, I can honestly say it was a lot more unpleasant than any true hunt/hunter I have ever witnessed, poaching brings  riches to a very minority group, hunting provides conservation (and riches) to not only larger groups, but the habitat and the wildlife concerned.

Would I pay for a big game hunt, most certainly, if I had the spare money and opportunity, would I pull the trigger at the end, I don't honestly know until I was in that situation, but I am certainly not against those who do, yes some of them I do think are big headed ego grabbers, but without them I fear the animals we love to see will be gone a whole lot quicker if those countries were left to their own devices.

So far on this thread I have seen no real argument for it to stop, I have seen some reasonably good debate for it to continue, countered by abuse and name calling, neither grown up nor productive for the debate of stopping it, so in conclusion I have to agree with BH that it is fuelled by emotion.

 

Someone on here said it would be the final nail in huntings coffin . 

I think the final nail will be when hunters who are subject to opinions from the anti based on misinformation they haven't bothered to even slightly research , using the same method of forming a opinion themselves against big game hunting . 

And as for a opinion on animals based on where you live its shown in Louis theroux documentary on big game hunting 

[ChrisJones 7,975]

4 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

That’s how I get to work most days 

Doubled over and strapped to some blokes lap?!

3 hours ago, Rabid said:

So far on this thread I have seen no real argument for it to stop, I have seen some reasonably good debate for it to continue, countered by abuse and name calling, neither grown up nor productive for the debate of stopping it, so in conclusion I have to agree with BH that it is fuelled by emotion. 

Nails and heads right there.

You can write up all the accounts. You can post the statistics. You can cooly debunk the myths and you can eloquently argue the benefits but like with a lot of things on THL unless you're confirming someone's preconceived biases you're wasting your carpal tunnel syndrome. The people that need to read it simply won't.

If the best rebuttal you can come up with is calling someone a dumb c*nt then your skillset is lacking and you need to up your argument.

[Born Hunter 17,751]

10 hours ago, Welsh_red said:

Love the way they shoved grass down his throat for the journey 

European tradition. The quarry gets a last feed I believe to honour it. I believe vegetation is also used to cover the gunshot wound, perhaps out of respect and decent presentation, but I'm not sure.

Edited September 10, 2018 by Born Hunter

[Welsh_red 4,629]

1 hour ago, Born Hunter said:

European tradition. The quarry gets a last feed I believe to honour it. I believe vegetation is also used to cover the gunshot wound, perhaps out of respect and decent presentation, but I'm not sure.

Shows how much attention I spent on the picture. For whatever reason I thought it was still alive and being extracted to safety by abseiling 

[Born Hunter 17,751]

52 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

Shows how much attention I spent on the picture. For whatever reason I thought it was still alive and being extracted to safety by abseiling 

I mean, I can't 100% rule that out  but I'm errring towards it being dead. lol

[Savanna 112]

Some trailcam pictures from a new hunting area I have for next year. I love this place

[mackem 26,261]

Is that top pic a brown hyena mate?

[Tyla 3,179]

I haven't read all this thread but i have actually lived in africa and experienced some limited time on a big game hunting concession and as part of an anti poaching effort. 

BH and savanna are right. The best protected and managed wildlife i saw was on a hunting conession in mozambique and the worst were in newly 'liberated' farms.

The fact is that conservation has to be funded and african nations have other priorities. They only way to maintain conservation is private funding through charity, tourism and, if viable, hunting.

How you feel about the people who pull the trigger is irrelevant, the animals don't care at all, the fact is that the money they spend can do more good than for the environment as a whole than the negative affect of the loss of one animal.

The key to it is management and control, sustainable hunting can offer the money to maintain huge areas of wilderness which are beyond the purse of governments. Without the hunting the wildlife and land lose its value and would be developed into farmland with disastrous consequences.

[Savanna 112]

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 18:13, mackem said:

Is that top pic a brown hyena mate?

Yes Sir, that is a brown hyena...there is lots of them in this new concession I have, we find alot of tracks all over the area...

[keepdiggin 9,559]

On 02/10/2018 at 11:42, Savanna said:

Yes Sir, that is a brown hyena...there is lots of them in this new concession I have, we find alot of tracks all over the area...

Do you use dogs

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Brilliant documentary on the Bubye Valley Conservancy. A great case study of the hunting conservation model and it's importance, specifically in Africa.

 

 

[Savanna 112]

On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 21:06, keepdiggin said:

Do you use dogs

No we are are not allowed to use dogs in SA.